RideLondon-Surrey 100 (2014!!!) Anyone?

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Nomadski

I Like Bikes
Location
LBS, Usually
I love this cos I thought I would walk, I love the fact I cycled up, not as fast as you, but no walking!!

That video wasn't me. I was doing ok till someone In front of me stopped and we touched wheels. Had a quick banana and then completed the hill.

You did well getting up in one go, was a toughie!
 

Moda

Active Member

Not sure if its true or not but have heard that registrations have pasted the 50,000 mark!
 

Snail Bait

Senior Member
Was having a look at some charities last night and almost all want you to pledge £600 or more.
How much of that do the charities actually get. I was told that the organisers take a cut. I did it for charity this year and had assumed that the charity got the lot. I'd be interested to know what the truth is.
 

Hill Wimp

Fair weathered,fair minded but easily persuaded.
How much of that do the charities actually get. I was told that the organisers take a cut. I did it for charity this year and had assumed that the charity got the lot. I'd be interested to know what the truth is.


I watched a programme a few years back about the charity thing and the London Marathon. Help for Heroes pulled out because the organisers got such a wedge of it so they started organising their own events.
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
It's a form of bribery..
What ever happened to 'thanks for helping us out and we are grateful for anything you can raise'?
It went out when they had to pay the organisers of big events for a chance to raise money, and to get publicity.
How much of that do the charities actually get. I was told that the organisers take a cut. I did it for charity this year and had assumed that the charity got the lot. I'd be interested to know what the truth is.
If it was a "charity place" they will have had to buy it from the organisers - but the charity business model is that they spend money in order to get people to donate. Even if they'd got 100% of what was raised a slug of that will have been earmarked for fundraising costs.

Buying a "charity place" at an event like this (and being the first year of an untried event the places were reasonably cheap) buys the charity access to fundraisers, and publicity.

And the organising body, although it operates reasonably commercially, is itself a charity - the charity commission website reports donations of over £4m for 2012.
 

sleaver

Veteran
How much of that do the charities actually get. I was told that the organisers take a cut. I did it for charity this year and had assumed that the charity got the lot. I'd be interested to know what the truth is.

The charity does have to buy the place they have which is fair enough but it depends on how much the organisers are asking them to pay.

I read somewhere that for the London Marathon, it cost a charity £400 to buy a place, however, they were asking people to pledge £1850. They do have other costs than just the place, but £1450! I know the London Marathon is bigger and in lots of demand, but that's just an example to show some numbers.

For RideLondon, one is asking for £500 while others are asking for £750. Do the organisers charge charities different amounts? If so, why the £250 difference!

Don't get me wrong, charities need money and depend on fundraising, but there is an element of are they asking for that amount because they know people will pay it just to get a place.
 

Moda

Active Member
It went out when they had to pay the organisers of big events for a chance to raise money, and to get publicity.

If it was a "charity place" they will have had to buy it from the organisers - but the charity business model is that they spend money in order to get people to donate. Even if they'd got 100% of what was raised a slug of that will have been earmarked for fundraising costs.

Buying a "charity place" at an event like this (and being the first year of an untried event the places were reasonably cheap) buys the charity access to fundraisers, and publicity.

And the organising body, although it operates reasonably commercially, is itself a charity - the charity commission website reports donations of over £4m for 2012.

Extremely hard to feel sorry for charities when they pay there CEO's £100,000+
 

fabregas485

Senior Member
Location
Harrow
The charity I would ride for is a local one with a goal of £650 set. I was talking to someone and they told me that is just a guideline and would give the 5 places they have to the people who have pledged the most.
 

Stedman

Active Member
Ok let’s try and answer some of these charity myths being discussed here.

  1. Without a significant amount of publicity surrounding charity fundraising, politically there is no-way that this mass participation event would probably have taken place with the privilege of doing this on closed roads in the Capital and Surrey.
  2. Arguably charities arguably subsidise ballot places as they pay far more for each of their places. I understand that this is in the region of £200.
  3. Each charity is only allocated a limited number of places.
  4. For London Marathon charity places, the minimum sponsorship requirement is more than twice the amount that we are being asked to raise with a RL100 average of say £750 and a LM average of £1500. The charities which I represented are potentially going to be asking us to bid for our 2014 places.
Irrespective of whether you get a ballot or charity entry we all enjoy the benefit that the charity involvement brings to this event.
 

EltonFrog

Legendary Member
Ok let’s try and answer some of these charity myths being discussed here.

  1. Without a significant amount of publicity surrounding charity fundraising, politically there is no-way that this mass participation event would probably have taken place with the privilege of doing this on closed roads in the Capital and Surrey.
  2. Arguably charities arguably subsidise ballot places as they pay far more for each of their places. I understand that this is in the region of £200.
  3. Each charity is only allocated a limited number of places.
  4. For London Marathon charity places, the minimum sponsorship requirement is more than twice the amount that we are being asked to raise with a RL100 average of say £750 and a LM average of £1500. The charities which I represented are potentially going to be asking us to bid for our 2014 places.
Irrespective of whether you get a ballot or charity entry we all enjoy the benefit that the charity involvement brings to this event.

I like this post. Are these points based on facts, personable experience or both?
 
Hello all. Guide Dogs have given me a charity place. I had to pledge that I would do my utmost to raise £650 plus pay the usual registration fee. I've never asked for sponsorship before, being a mostly hedonistic cyclist rather than doing anything *too* challenging, so am hoping my friends/family's goodwill will not be worn out.
 

Snail Bait

Senior Member
Hello all. Guide Dogs have given me a charity place. I had to pledge that I would do my utmost to raise £650 plus pay the usual registration fee. I've never asked for sponsorship before, being a mostly hedonistic cyclist rather than doing anything *too* challenging, so am hoping my friends/family's goodwill will not be worn out.
Cool. I'll sponsor you if you add a link to your page. I did it for Guide Dogs this year but just don't feel I can go that route again for a while. I work for Government (I know - I'm sorry) so no charity matching and not allowed to put anything on my email sign-off. Raised hundreds on behalf of my ex for H4H and have done stuff for Mind, BHF and others in the past two years so that's it for me. I was just interested about the split. I don't begrudge getting my place that way. I wanted a place and I'm very glad I did it.
 
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