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Originally all this info I added to the RideLondon - Surrey 100 Anyone? Thread but thought all the info in one place would be beneficial to some people wandering into CycleChat.
From the link you can select the Summary tab and download the file in tcx or gpx format to your computer. If you have a Garmin you can also send the route directly to a connected device.
Bike Route Toaster automatically fills in an expected time to complete of 6hrs 26 mins (an average of 15.9mph).
This is a hotly debated topic, each and every single route planning website gives a completely different figure ranging from 2,000ft to over 4,000ft, Bike Route Toaster gives 980m / 3,215ft for example.
The official figure is just shy of 3,800ft, however Ive estimated it's actually around 4,660 ft for the 100 miles. I did a 78 mile portion of the ride (Kingston>Surrey Hills>Wimbledon), but didn't do the climb up Wimbledon Hill or Sawyers Hill and for my ride I got 4,543 via my Garmin, this figure is from Garmin Connects corrected elevation which is taken from professional land surveys.
There's a little discrepancy with the hills I didn't do, minus a little way I rode which wont be on the route, but IMO its around that mark.
My 78 Mile route (Garmin) - http://connect.garmin.com/activity/342580851
On Strava - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725
I thought I would share my experiences with others with this thread as there will be many not lucky enough to have had a go on the route before the big day, and I thought its useful to get some kind of heads up of what to expect. Most of the info is readily available from various sources, but these are collated for your perusal.
Disclaimer: I know I'm going to get a few replies from more hardened cyclists than myself that they could wheelie up Leith Hill, and some of the hills aren't hills, mere molehills etc etc but this quick guide is written by a newbie cyclist for any newbie cyclists doing this race to complete the distance, not to break the sound barrier. If your the latter there is probably little here for you and you wont agree with my little hill "marks" out of ten. I'm simply trying to get across the effort I had to put in to get up them. Maybe cyclists will read this and at least learn something about the layout of the route they weren't aware of before.
I will also say overall this route isn't particularly difficult save for 2 little bits, but for some the climbing combined with the distance will present a challenge to many.
You should use the participants map as context to places, and to the hills I refer to, this is the original published one, the later two are my amended ones to go with my points and with extra info.
Some general pointers
Most of the outbound journey to the Surrey Hills is flat, save for the hill in Richmond Park (Sawyers Hill - http://app.strava.com/segments/1128062)
When you hit Ripley there is a 3 mile section which goes slightly uphill, its not hard and you will barely notice a hill at all until your legs start aching a bit more than they should. Keep up a high cadence here and don't mash the pedals, just keep spinning lightly. http://app.strava.com/segments/1162926
Keep something in the tank for the return loop to London, even after Box Hill there are 4 unwelcome climbs before Kingston, then once thru Kingston there is a fairly big rise to climb, again not hard but after 85 miles will probably be a little knackering.
Most important - at Wimbledon there is a short but NASTY climb up to Wimbledon village. This is after 90 miles and it will hurt a lot. Its average is 5% (same as Box Hill) but the climb itself is mostly 8%-10%. Keep something in your legs for it. http://app.strava.com/segments/653847
Heads Up For The Route
(mark/10 simply denotes my effort going up them) -
START
FLAT--->
1. Richmond Park - Sawyers Hill Climb (Short) (5/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/3435424
FLAT--->
2. After Weybridge 3 short climbs, not difficult, and short, but there (2/10) - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z1140|1310
FLAT--->
3. Ripley to West Horsley - Slight gradient for 3 miles, (go easy on gears and spin light). (2/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/1162926
Rolling hills to....
4. NEWLANDS CORNER - (Short straight HARD hill) (8/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/646938
5. Fast Descent!
6. Slow Incline between Abinger Hammer and Holmbury St Mary (1/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/1113706
7. Downhill
8. End of Ockley Road - LEITH HILL - (1.5 Miles, grit your teeth and plough thru the worst the course has to offer. VERY HARD, about 3 false flats) 10/10 - http://app.strava.com/segments/615597
9. Fast Descent leading to a small climb before Guildford Road junction (4/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/1217924
10. Rolling Hills. Use downhill to gain speed to take worst out of uphill parts (6/10)
Flattens near Dorking
11. BOX HILL - (After Leith Hill this is a pussycat, just get into a steady rhythm, enjoy the views to your right, then left, then right again!) 6/10 - http://app.strava.com/segments/627910
12. After the peak there really isn't a descent for a while, just a few more surprising climbs, nothing difficult though, just enough to swear at a little if your expecting a downhill break - 3/10
13. Just before Headley Common Road there is a small descent, but there is a VERY TIGHT left hairpin turn here so be aware (See below for photos).
14. Again a climb up the B0233, not hard (4/10) before you start going downhill, potentially very fast!
15. What I would say is there is a real nasty climb here - http://app.strava.com/segments/1875303 HOWEVER if you get enough speed on the straight downhill section just before (scary as you can get 40mph easy) you can coast about halfway up this road before you need to exert any energy!
16. Pretty flat with small incline leading to Leatherhead (3/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/2745991
Road from Leatherhead to Cobham is pretty flat, nothing to worry about.
So, from Cobham - there are 3 sharp climbs that don't last very long so don't worry too much but be aware!
17. In Cobham after going round sharp roundabout you go on for a bit then sharp climb - 3/10 http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z6430|6503
18. After crossing A3 (major road) bridge slightly longer climb but again not bad - 4/10 - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z6551|6610
Note: There is another climb straight after this, but get enough speed down the hill from 2 and you should roast it!
19. Just before Esher there is a 3rd climb, much like the second - 4/10 - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z6665|6725
Once in Esher enjoy the downhill and FLAT!----->
20. Thru Kingston, when on Coombe Lane there is an unwelcome climb but is short and sharp - 5/10 - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z7107|7175
FLAT------>
21. Wimbledon to Wimbledon Village - That nasty SOB - 7/10 - http://app.strava.com/segments/653847
FLAT------> TO FINISH!
So when you get to Wimbledon Village you can start humming the Rocky music to yourself as victory is near, within 10 flat miles actually!
Easy bullet point summary
* Outward is easier than back inward, by quite some way.
* 1 hill in Richmond Park - Urgh
* Short hills after Weybridge - Meh
* Go easy on the gears from Ripley to West Horsely
* 25 Mile section from Newlands to Box Hill - ARRGGH
* When you see a downhill and an uphill after, SLAM THE HAMMER DOWN!
* Cobham to Esher - 3 climbs, not bad just unwelcome!
* Kingston hill - Ouch
* Wimbledon Hill - OOF!
* Rest FLAT.
* REJOICE!
Other Notes:
5 times marked on the map below are cut off points. You MUST reach this point by the time shown or you will be withdrawn from the race.
1. Hampton Court Palace: 10.30
2. Newlands Corner 13.00
3. Leatherhead 15.00
4. Sandown Park 15.30
5. Wimbledon Common - 16.15
In addition there are 3 shortcuts made available at a certain time that will become mandatory at the times below.
1. West Horsley 12.00
2. Abinger Hammer 12.30
3. Burford Bridge 13.30
I honestly wouldn't worry too much about these cut off times, pace yourself and keep above 12mph average for the route and your sorted!
Participant Map with my bullet point locations
Information Overload Map
This has all the key point locations, withdrawal times and shortcut deadline times all on the map.
For those who want all the timings and shortcuts without the numbered bullet markers
Route
RideLondon / Garmin have already provided a "Training" GPX route HERE, however this is not what we will exactly follow on the day as the route takes in roads we cant usually ride (against traffic, or on roads like the A12 closed to cyclists normally). It is also shorter by some miles than the actual route because of it.
Because some like having course points (and thus the distance to each one) on their Garmins (and other devices), I used the info from the training route, along with the spectator guide information (text and map) along with the previously released rough map to put together what I think is an accurate 100 mile (160.93km) route we will follow from start to finish.
RideLondon Route - http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=585756
Things to note:From the link you can select the Summary tab and download the file in tcx or gpx format to your computer. If you have a Garmin you can also send the route directly to a connected device.
Bike Route Toaster automatically fills in an expected time to complete of 6hrs 26 mins (an average of 15.9mph).
If you would like to change this, maybe you are using Garmins training partner feature for example, download the file and open in Notepad. Find (near the top)....
<TotalTimeSeconds>22545.7</TotalTimeSeconds>
And change this to however many seconds you will complete the course
(100 / *your expected average MPH* x60 x60)
then save! When uploaded, your Garmin will now compare you to your average speed progress on the day.
Elevation??
This is a hotly debated topic, each and every single route planning website gives a completely different figure ranging from 2,000ft to over 4,000ft, Bike Route Toaster gives 980m / 3,215ft for example.
The official figure is just shy of 3,800ft, however Ive estimated it's actually around 4,660 ft for the 100 miles. I did a 78 mile portion of the ride (Kingston>Surrey Hills>Wimbledon), but didn't do the climb up Wimbledon Hill or Sawyers Hill and for my ride I got 4,543 via my Garmin, this figure is from Garmin Connects corrected elevation which is taken from professional land surveys.
There's a little discrepancy with the hills I didn't do, minus a little way I rode which wont be on the route, but IMO its around that mark.
My 78 Mile route (Garmin) - http://connect.garmin.com/activity/342580851
On Strava - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725
Nomadski's RideLondon 100 Newbie Guide For Newbie Cyclists!
I thought I would share my experiences with others with this thread as there will be many not lucky enough to have had a go on the route before the big day, and I thought its useful to get some kind of heads up of what to expect. Most of the info is readily available from various sources, but these are collated for your perusal.
Disclaimer: I know I'm going to get a few replies from more hardened cyclists than myself that they could wheelie up Leith Hill, and some of the hills aren't hills, mere molehills etc etc but this quick guide is written by a newbie cyclist for any newbie cyclists doing this race to complete the distance, not to break the sound barrier. If your the latter there is probably little here for you and you wont agree with my little hill "marks" out of ten. I'm simply trying to get across the effort I had to put in to get up them. Maybe cyclists will read this and at least learn something about the layout of the route they weren't aware of before.
I will also say overall this route isn't particularly difficult save for 2 little bits, but for some the climbing combined with the distance will present a challenge to many.
You should use the participants map as context to places, and to the hills I refer to, this is the original published one, the later two are my amended ones to go with my points and with extra info.
Some general pointers
Most of the outbound journey to the Surrey Hills is flat, save for the hill in Richmond Park (Sawyers Hill - http://app.strava.com/segments/1128062)
When you hit Ripley there is a 3 mile section which goes slightly uphill, its not hard and you will barely notice a hill at all until your legs start aching a bit more than they should. Keep up a high cadence here and don't mash the pedals, just keep spinning lightly. http://app.strava.com/segments/1162926
Keep something in the tank for the return loop to London, even after Box Hill there are 4 unwelcome climbs before Kingston, then once thru Kingston there is a fairly big rise to climb, again not hard but after 85 miles will probably be a little knackering.
Most important - at Wimbledon there is a short but NASTY climb up to Wimbledon village. This is after 90 miles and it will hurt a lot. Its average is 5% (same as Box Hill) but the climb itself is mostly 8%-10%. Keep something in your legs for it. http://app.strava.com/segments/653847
Heads Up For The Route
(mark/10 simply denotes my effort going up them) -
START
FLAT--->
1. Richmond Park - Sawyers Hill Climb (Short) (5/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/3435424
FLAT--->
2. After Weybridge 3 short climbs, not difficult, and short, but there (2/10) - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z1140|1310
FLAT--->
3. Ripley to West Horsley - Slight gradient for 3 miles, (go easy on gears and spin light). (2/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/1162926
Rolling hills to....
4. NEWLANDS CORNER - (Short straight HARD hill) (8/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/646938
5. Fast Descent!
6. Slow Incline between Abinger Hammer and Holmbury St Mary (1/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/1113706
7. Downhill
8. End of Ockley Road - LEITH HILL - (1.5 Miles, grit your teeth and plough thru the worst the course has to offer. VERY HARD, about 3 false flats) 10/10 - http://app.strava.com/segments/615597
9. Fast Descent leading to a small climb before Guildford Road junction (4/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/1217924
10. Rolling Hills. Use downhill to gain speed to take worst out of uphill parts (6/10)
Flattens near Dorking
11. BOX HILL - (After Leith Hill this is a pussycat, just get into a steady rhythm, enjoy the views to your right, then left, then right again!) 6/10 - http://app.strava.com/segments/627910
12. After the peak there really isn't a descent for a while, just a few more surprising climbs, nothing difficult though, just enough to swear at a little if your expecting a downhill break - 3/10
13. Just before Headley Common Road there is a small descent, but there is a VERY TIGHT left hairpin turn here so be aware (See below for photos).
14. Again a climb up the B0233, not hard (4/10) before you start going downhill, potentially very fast!
15. What I would say is there is a real nasty climb here - http://app.strava.com/segments/1875303 HOWEVER if you get enough speed on the straight downhill section just before (scary as you can get 40mph easy) you can coast about halfway up this road before you need to exert any energy!
16. Pretty flat with small incline leading to Leatherhead (3/10) - http://app.strava.com/segments/2745991
Road from Leatherhead to Cobham is pretty flat, nothing to worry about.
So, from Cobham - there are 3 sharp climbs that don't last very long so don't worry too much but be aware!
17. In Cobham after going round sharp roundabout you go on for a bit then sharp climb - 3/10 http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z6430|6503
18. After crossing A3 (major road) bridge slightly longer climb but again not bad - 4/10 - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z6551|6610
Note: There is another climb straight after this, but get enough speed down the hill from 2 and you should roast it!
19. Just before Esher there is a 3rd climb, much like the second - 4/10 - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z6665|6725
Once in Esher enjoy the downhill and FLAT!----->
20. Thru Kingston, when on Coombe Lane there is an unwelcome climb but is short and sharp - 5/10 - http://app.strava.com/activities/67112725#z7107|7175
FLAT------>
21. Wimbledon to Wimbledon Village - That nasty SOB - 7/10 - http://app.strava.com/segments/653847
FLAT------> TO FINISH!
So when you get to Wimbledon Village you can start humming the Rocky music to yourself as victory is near, within 10 flat miles actually!
Easy bullet point summary
* Outward is easier than back inward, by quite some way.
* 1 hill in Richmond Park - Urgh
* Short hills after Weybridge - Meh
* Go easy on the gears from Ripley to West Horsely
* 25 Mile section from Newlands to Box Hill - ARRGGH
* When you see a downhill and an uphill after, SLAM THE HAMMER DOWN!
* Cobham to Esher - 3 climbs, not bad just unwelcome!
* Kingston hill - Ouch
* Wimbledon Hill - OOF!
* Rest FLAT.
* REJOICE!
Other Notes:
5 times marked on the map below are cut off points. You MUST reach this point by the time shown or you will be withdrawn from the race.
1. Hampton Court Palace: 10.30
2. Newlands Corner 13.00
3. Leatherhead 15.00
4. Sandown Park 15.30
5. Wimbledon Common - 16.15
In addition there are 3 shortcuts made available at a certain time that will become mandatory at the times below.
1. West Horsley 12.00
2. Abinger Hammer 12.30
3. Burford Bridge 13.30
I honestly wouldn't worry too much about these cut off times, pace yourself and keep above 12mph average for the route and your sorted!
Participant Map with my bullet point locations
Information Overload Map
This has all the key point locations, withdrawal times and shortcut deadline times all on the map.
For those who want all the timings and shortcuts without the numbered bullet markers
Boxhill Road / Headley Common Road Hairpin (!)
I can imagine there will be lots of signage or its a potential accident spot. Riders will be so happy to finally get another downhill bit they may let their guard down!
Good idea previewing it on Streetview.
From my guide it is point 13...
Far Approach
Medium Approach
Near
Reverse Corner View
So yeah, be careful here!
Other Useful Resources
Car Park & Drop Off Point - https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=212031949687909346769.0004e23e58d484757478f&msa=0
Spectator Guide - http://www.prudentialridelondon.co.uk/The_Events/Prudential_RideLondon-Surrey_100/Spectator_Info.htm
RideLondon Contact: Tel: 0207 7902 0212 / Email: helpdesk@ridelondon.co.uk
Hope some will find this useful, enjoy the day people!