Tynan said:people coming up behind you notice you because you've go an airzound?
the thing you can learn on here ...
domtyler said:I'm pretty sure that wearing hi viz does serve to wind up and provoke hostile bullying behaviour from a certain sub section of the road using community too.
I really don't feel the need to be any more visible than I can make myself without it.
I almost forgot the piece of kit that guarantees to get you noticed every time and that is the good ol' AirZound. A hundred times more effective than any day glo vest will ever be.
col said:I cant see it(excuse)I think the hostile bullying from a sub section,is because its a bike anyway,not because of vizvests.
domtyler said:True, but by making a loud statement like that you open yourself up to it a lot more!
col said:Possibly ? but is the risk of getting bullied more than the risk of not being seen?
domtyler said:If you want to get seen on a bike just ride in primary position, it works every time. Ride out of this position and you'll beblatantly ignorednot seen whatever you're wearing. That's the simple truth folks.
col said:True,but that could also be the reason a minority bully too,they think they are needlessly getting held up.And before someone says it,no i dont think that .
domtyler said:I regularly get beeped, tail-gated, shouted at and threatened, subjected to the most dangerous overtaking manoeuvres possible because I choose to position myself in the middle of the lane. On the other hand, you will only very rarely hear me complain that I wasn't seen by a motorist. And this has nothing to do with wearing a dayglo yellow vest.
col said:But with a vest on,the same thing would happen?But as long as they see you
domtyler said:If you want to get seen on a bike just ride in primary position, it works every time. Ride out of this position and you'll beblatantly ignorednot seen whatever you're wearing. That's the simple truth folks.
Tynan said:and primary is always an option is it?
I was in primary for my last accident, I presume that he didn't see me, and no I wasn't wearing hi viz
so much for the simple truth
col said:This isnt going to be a disection is it?