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Red light jumping. Ok or not ?
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Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
@Mr Paul. Yes I would rather visit a dignitas facility.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
That is an invalid leap of logic Paul.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
Your basic logic is flawed Paul. I would not want to live with Cancer full stop.
adds21
Rider of bikes
- Location
- North Somerset
Becs
Veteran
- Location
- Old Hatfield (it's nice honest!)
Unless you take no medication, use no cleaning products, no soaps, shampoos, don't wear any leather or wool, are a true vegan and don't give your "rescued" animals any medication (which could be argued constitutes cruelty in itself if they are sick) you really don't have a leg to stand on mate.
Cyclopathic
Veteran
- Location
- Leicester.
Is it ok for me to go through red lights if I switch on my flashing red light and have one mounted on the front as well. And if I ding my bell as well to let people know I'm comming through.
This is a whole different avenue and probably deserves a place in the Crank Arms rather than commuting.
Re: Red Light jumping
If it was 2 o'clock in the morning, no one was around,I could see clearly at all junctions and there were no rozzers around, then I would do it.
Re: Red Light jumping
If it was 2 o'clock in the morning, no one was around,I could see clearly at all junctions and there were no rozzers around, then I would do it.
Cyclopathic
Veteran
- Location
- Leicester.
Without wishing to sound facetious (but possibly failing) what are peoples feelings towards stopping at a red light on say a pedestrian crossing; dismounting, walking the bike the 8 feet across the lights and then getting back on and continuing. I would probably keep my bike on the road whilst I pushed it along from the pavement.
Doesn't this get around almost all the problems except for it having to still slow the cyclist down a bit?
Doesn't this get around almost all the problems except for it having to still slow the cyclist down a bit?
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
Then I have a chance of survival without treatment.
My real point was that Mr P made a faulty assumption.
My real point was that Mr P made a faulty assumption.
Cyclopathic
Veteran
- Location
- Leicester.
This is a whole different avenue and probably deserves a place in the Crank Arms rather than commuting.
Re: Red Light jumping
If it was 2 o'clock in the morning, no one was around,I could see clearly at all junctions and there were no rozzers around, then I would do it.
Well my treatment of red lights is somewhat along those lines anyway. I will rlj if there is no one around to annoy and no one to influence. Basicaly I'l do it if no ones around therfor it will never come to anyones attention because no one will ever know....Oh bugger.
Bit of a faff, If you were really that bothered about saving a few seconds you might as well blatt straight on and ignore the lights. Or like me, stop and use the lights for some interval sprinting once they turn green.
Ahhh wait.... but that's not legal in the UK.
Kinda brings us neatly back to the point of legality vs. morality.
RLJing (on a bicycle) is mildly illegal, and mainly a victimless misdemeanour. Euthanasia is a serious offence, and will earn the perpetrator many years in jail.
Still want to maintain the ''it's illegal and therefore wrong'' position?
Becs
Veteran
- Location
- Old Hatfield (it's nice honest!)
awesomeAngelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
If it is not carried out in Britian and I visit the clinic alone it is not illegal. Failing that there are other legal methods at my disposal.