Recording Disance etc

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Studley

Veteran
I log date, distance, average speed, time and maximum speed. It's a good way for me to see what progress I'm making and also handy as a rough guide in seeing how my fitness is improving. I don't cycle far and tend to concentrate on upping my average speed.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
I record my weekend rides and sometimes upload a few photos to ride with GPS - kept viewable just by me. Mainly so I can browse, and remind my failing memory of where I went last year (or last week), how a particular route went, and so on.

All a bit geeky.

It does give moving average speed but that's a bit of a meaningless measure - it's algorithm dependent, and anyway all I do stop to rest - so why not include stopped time? I'm not fussed about speed other than for planning rides, and I use 10mph for that because it makes the maths easy and leaves plenty of time for stops.
 

Nigelnaturist

Legendary Member
Location
Pontefract
Here you go managed to split the 10sp into what I had before 52/40/30 and a 12-27 and current 50/38/26 12-27

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It would involve to much work to separate the 7-9sp variations, you can see that though I spin slightly higher my avg sp is down, but this may be due to weather the slight increase in of a foot a mile, it wasn't the change from 7 to 8sp that proved the biggest increase but I think from a change in wheelset, but there was a good improvement from 8 to 9sp

The decrease in elevation I think is more due to how rwgps corrects elevationsfor fit files opposed to tcx files, I had an Edge 500 which had the fit file format, I now have a bryton R20 and an Edge 705 both use a variations of the tcx format.
 

Turbo Rider

Just can't reMember
I dont, though I'd probably like to - more about the ££ than anything else. I only ride to commute, though I do put some welly into it because I like to push myself. All I really care about though, is getting home before anyone else so I can ditch the sweaty lycra and walk around the house naked, where the magic of the water cycle takes effect :biggrin:
 

Panter

Just call me Chris...
I record EVERYTHING!
It's all tracked on the Endomondo app, even heart rate so that I can study my stats at length :biggrin:
I also have a separate Google docs spreadsheet for recording my weight which draws a pretty little graph alongside. If I could overlay it onto my Endo stats then my World would be complete!!

I just like to do it, I find it motivational and helps me keep on track.
 

nethfel

Über Member
Location
Tennessee
I record all rides, both on the road as well as on my trainer (regardless of whether it's a casual ride or an exercise ride). I use Cyclemeter and the Wahoo Fitness app to track what/how I'm doing and usually sync it into Strava. This at least allows me to maintain accurate numbers on distance, cadence, avg speed as well as max/min periods and climbs. Personally I only use it to see how I'm doing and compare my personal performance on similar rides (ie: am I getting faster? am I constantly having trouble at a certain point? have I been able to extend my ride time, etc.). I like the convenience of the apps to maintain this information so I don't have to guess later at what/how I was doing.
 

Nigelnaturist

Legendary Member
Location
Pontefract
I record all rides, both on the road as well as on my trainer (regardless of whether it's a casual ride or an exercise ride). I use Cyclemeter and the Wahoo Fitness app to track what/how I'm doing and usually sync it into Strava. This at least allows me to maintain accurate numbers on distance, cadence, avg speed as well as max/min periods and climbs. Personally I only use it to see how I'm doing and compare my personal performance on similar rides (ie: am I getting faster? am I constantly having trouble at a certain point? have I been able to extend my ride time, etc.). I like the convenience of the apps to maintain this information so I don't have to guess later at what/how I was doing.
But strava isn't that accurate at the end of the day, many a time it nicks a little bit of speed, and more often than not elevation, and the elevation can be a lot. If you ever want to see how much, create a segment for the whole of one ride and you will see what I mean.
 

Mike_P

Legendary Member
Location
Harrogate
Question is which is the most accurate. My cycle computer gives a slightly shorter distance than Strava and plotting the route on line gives a slightly longer distance than Strava.
 

Nigelnaturist

Legendary Member
Location
Pontefract
In my data base i use what ever the unit says. There is sometimes as much as a 0.3 difference in miles between my Bryton R20 and my Edge 705, I use the edge data, unless it fooks up as it does sometimes, it just stops recording mid ride, then I fall back on my bryton for the core data, elevation is always taken from that corrected on rwgps, I have data show how much each unit recorded and the corrected data and a % error ect......
HR zones are different as the Bryton has 7 and the 705 only 5, but I generally only use avg and max and even these can be a bit off on the odd occasion.
So really what it boils down to is using a system that gives consistent results for you.
 

nethfel

Über Member
Location
Tennessee
But strava isn't that accurate at the end of the day, many a time it nicks a little bit of speed, and more often than not elevation, and the elevation can be a lot. If you ever want to see how much, create a segment for the whole of one ride and you will see what I mean.
This is true, but I only use Strava as a "broad" overview of my rides. For detailed data, I still refer to Cyclemeter and Wahoo Fitness - Cyclemeter always for outdoor rides as it really collects and collates data for me - one sample screenshot of part of the data...
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On a ~10 mile ride that I regularly do, I've watched my cadence progress and maintain in different areas (when I started cycling on my hybrid, most of my time was spent in the 50-70 range where as now I spend more time in the 70-90 range, other charts when I compare show me where I have progressed in speed, climbing, etc.)

It's data from these more detailed apps that I share with strava to give me overview feelings of where I'm at and goal tracking (ie: so many miles per week) - I don't really depend on Strava to give me granular accurate data, as I've read about how it smooths out the data a bit, even sometimes when it shouldn't...

Even data from the apps isn't perfect, especially when it depends on GPS as there is a certain amount of error in GPS data (and even cadence can be off if there is spike data, like in the chart above, I'd dump the 110-120 range as that would appear to be an anomaly rather than good data).
 

nethfel

Über Member
Location
Tennessee
@nethfel I can get similar data from sporttracks, don't even need internet as it is a standalone program but does use data from the net like weather.
Technically, cyclemeter and wahoo fitness app are stand alone as well :smile: The phone just acts as the cycle computer recording the sessions and makes the data available at which point I use the data in different ways. We (@Nigelnaturist and I) just use different software to get the same type of data :biggrin: I'll have to look at sporttracks a bit more - I always like seeing other technology and software incase there is something that performs better than what I use.

Personally, I just think it's really cool to be able to do that so easily and that the tools are available for it (I enjoy app development, doesn't mean I wanna re-invent the wheel :smile: )
 
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