Rear derailleur adjustment for dummies

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Boo

Veteran
Location
Enfield
Hi!

So. Four weeks into the wonderful world of bicycling, and my gears are starting to play up. I'm guessing this is because my new cables are stretching, and need some adjustment. I've found that, particularly on downshifts, I'll click the lever, but nothing happens - click a second time and I get two cogs-worth of jump.

I'd like to be able to do my own maintenance, and, with the backstop of knowing that I have a free 6 week check-and-tune-up from Evans due in a fortnight if I really bodge things up, I heft the bike up onto the stand, and with a multi-tool in one hand and the big book of bicycle maintenance in the other, I get stuck in.

In my defence, I think that while I haven't made things better, I've only made them marginally worse.

Put the chain on the smallest rear cog to give maximum slack - check.
Click the shifter to make sure that I've clicked as far as I can go - check.
Give the cable a gentle pull with a finger and click the shifters up and down to become aware of which lever makes it tighter and which makes it looser - check.
Make sure that the jockey wheel is directly under the bottom cog when the chain is on said cog - check.

OK! Let's fiddle!

After some adjustment of the rear gear cable knob (can't remember the proper name), I've got to the point where I jump from the smallest cog (I'll call it 9) to cog 7 with one click. Clicking the other way jumps from 7 to 9.

Well it'll reduce wear and tear on no. 8 I suppose...

The book suggests that there may be too much slack in the cable, and to loosen the pinch bolt and pull the cable through a little.

I get the multi-tool in one hand and grip the end of the cable with a pair of pliers, as I have visions of the cable shooting off somewhere as soon as it's loose.

Lesson learned, No. 1 - Those little crimped-on ends on the cables come off really easily, and don't go back on.

I tighten up the pinch bolt and fiddle some more. Things get worse, then better. More pinch bolt fiddling. More cable adjuster... adjusting.

Cog 8 resolutely refuses to engage, but 1 - 7 seem to be fine, and 9, when we get there, is also ok.

I'm going to take it round the block later, just in case I haven't tightened the pinch bolt correctly and the cable come loose (don't want to be 5 miles up the road if that happens), but I think I may have to leave it to the experts until I've got a bit more experience.

Unless, of course, anyone has any suggestions...?

Cheers!

Boo
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
Uhm , you should not have needed to pull the cable any tighter as a few turns max on the adjuster should have sorted it out .
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
There are many helpful videos on youtube. This is a good one. Or search for one specific to your manufacturer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzvfCaIbyQ&feature=player_embedded


Personally, I'm an adherent of the "random twiddle" approach.

Regarding the cable end caps, you can buy them quite easily. In the meantime use a bit of insulating tape or something to stop it from fraying. Otherwise it will all come undone and (a) look messy and (b) free strands will start to break off at the pinch bolt.

Edit. Snap.
 

Shut Up Legs

Down Under Member
I had a problem with a cable end fraying once, to the point where putting on a ferrule was too difficult, and found that the right diameter of heat-shrink tubing worked really well.
 

Cyclist33

Guest
Location
Warrington

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH43OCmArUw


I use this one. so far so good!
 
OP
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Boo

Boo

Veteran
Location
Enfield
I've watched both of those videos now - very helpful.
The thing I hadn't grasped was that the cable doesn't need to be under a lot of tension at the pinch bolt - I'd assumed it had to be, hence me grabbing it with pliers and pulling the end cap off.

So it looks like I need to:

Screw the barrel adjusters in at both ends, to allow for maximum adjustability.
Clamp the cable at the pinch bolt so it's held firmly, with no slack, but not under a lot of tension.
Start adjusting.

To the garage!
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
I have tried Edam cheese wax on cable ends. I made litte sculptures out of it first. It looked really cool :becool: But fell off quite quickly :sad: So you can cross that off your list of potential alternatives.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
I've watched both of those videos now - very helpful.
The thing I hadn't grasped was that the cable doesn't need to be under a lot of tension at the pinch bolt - I'd assumed it had to be, hence me grabbing it with pliers and pulling the end cap off.

So it looks like I need to:

Screw the barrel adjusters in at both ends, to allow for maximum adjustability.
Clamp the cable at the pinch bolt so it's held firmly, with no slack, but not under a lot of tension.
Start adjusting.

To the garage!


In a nutshell.... The boy's got it...
It really is that simple. Until I watched that video I dared not touch the rear dérailleur. That video went a long way to demystify the gear set up process for me.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
If you're gentle you can re-use the antifray by squeezing it with pliers at right angles to where it was crimped this can open up the hole again, only gentle pressure on the pliers mind then crimp as before.
My LBS sells them for 5p though. :biggrin:
 

Big Nick

Senior Member
The best way forward with gear set up I've found is to just use very small adjustments be it with cable tension or limit screws

I did exactly the same as you and barrelled in undoing pinch bolts and fraying cables when I first started and found that most adjustment involves very slight variation in cable tension which often can be made on the barrel adjuster

Another useful tip is to check your derailleur alignment to make sure its in line with the rear cog it's supposed to be on. If the cable's too tight the derailleur won't be able to reach the end of its travel and it won't change gear, conversely if its too slack clicking the gear lever won't take up sufficient cable to move the derailleur and it won't change gear
 
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