Rasmussen: yellow fever

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thom

thom

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Personally I don't really understand what is worth arguing about - riders like Hamilton and Rasmussen doped to win and did win once or twice. They both got caught, denied it for ages then wrote a book.
Rasmussen appears to be following Hamilton's lead for me and is less sincere. Perhaps the difference between the two now is the apparent level of contrition - after Rasmussen was banned, Christina watches supported him back, he pleaded innocence and essentially screwed that sponsor. I have no great interest in forming a balanced opinion of Rasmussen to see if he comes across like Hamilton or Millar when he talks about doping. He was a relatively minor player craving the limelight as a rider and similarly now. He didn't do anything that different or interesting. And I have better confidence now that the doping authorities will follow all the leads and speculation, patiently revealing what needs to be told.

Hopefully the UCI/WADA will create an environment all riders open up truthfully about the past and none are granted ludicrous amounts of individual attention just for being a bit more honest than they were in the past.
 
rich p

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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I don't like MR now and I don't think many of us ever did. Blanket, scattergun accusations are self-defeating because it only takes one to be wrong or retracted, like Flecha's, and trust in the others is damaged.
Having said that, I suspect a lot of Rabo were doping and a lot of what MR says now is true. We know from Hamilton that not even he was always on the dope (pan y agua), cost, fear of being caught, and availability being factors so it's pointless speculating on percentages of dopers.
Some undoubtedly were, some weren't, and some were sometimes.
 
smutchin

smutchin

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For me, it's not about whether they're genuinely contrite or their motivations for writing a book, it's whether they have anything interesting to say about their time as pro cyclists. I remain unconvinced about Hamilton's sincerity and I'm not sure I like him much as a person, but I consider his book essential reading for pro cycling fans. I suspect Rasmussen's book will be more of the same as we got from Hamilton, and as such probably won't reveal anything substantially new, especially not where CSC is concerned. It might still be worth reading though.
 
C

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rich p said:
I don't like MR now and I don't think many of us ever did. Blanket, scattergun accusations are self-defeating because it only takes one to be wrong or retracted, like Flecha's, and trust in the others is damaged.
Having said that, I suspect a lot of Rabo were doping and a lot of what MR says now is true. We know from Hamilton that not even he was always on the dope (pan y agua), cost, fear of being caught, and availability being factors so it's pointless speculating on percentages of dopers.
Some undoubtedly were, some weren't, and some were sometimes.
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Donald Rumsfeld said it best: There are known unknowns and unknown unknowns....

There's no doubt in my mind that I wouldn't buy Rasmussen a pint if I met him, nor would I pay too much attention to his stories but that doesn't mean I'd pay them no credence, I would. Considered carefully over a pint, not with Rasmussen.
 
rich p

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
I shall not dignify these posts with a reply:tongue:
 
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