Quill stems

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Chris S

Legendary Member
Location
Birmingham
Why are some people a bit sniffy about quill stems?
As far as I can see they work perfectly well, threadless stems are for the manufacturer's convenience and not the cyclists.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
I agree. I like Quill stems and I have never had any problems with them and they look so much nicer.
 
Location
Loch side.
They may have beauty on their side but not breeding.
Quill stems are hugely problematic because of a design flaw. They generally attach to the fork's steerer by sliding inside it and then engaging an expander at the bottom of the stem. This leaves the top unsupported and allowed to move around inside the steerer. This causes three problems: 1) It causes circular fretting damage to the quill where it enters the headset. It is a problem for powerful riders because it leaves a massive stress riser where the quill can break. 2) The dynamic joint pumps water and sweat into the steerer, which then emulsifies with grease people (needlessly) put in there and causes corrosion of the aluminium to the point where the stem cannot be removed for servicing the headset. It than has to be sawn off and laboriously sawn down the length of the quill until the pressure is released and the stump can come out. 3) Bolt redundancy. There is only one bolt in there and if that fails, depending on the clamp's design, you have problems.

Both these are serious design flaws. The other problem is with removing and refitting handlebars. Unless it has some sort of front-loader arrangement or a hinge, fitting a handlebar through a quill stem's eye is like chasing a camel through a needle eye.

The aheadset threadless stem sorted out al these problems plus added many other advantages we didn't even think of until Mr Aheadset came onto the scene with his ingenious design some 27 years ago.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Cinelli XA. Nuff said. Beautiful.

No issues with quills.

The compression washer on ahead systems has a habbit of rubbing on the steerer. This causes alloy deposits (black marks) which in turn cause clicky stems. Cured by sanding the black deposits off the steerer and compression washer and new grease.

They are ugly though.
 
Location
Loch side.
Cinelli XA. Nuff said. Beautiful.

No issues with quills.

The compression washer on ahead systems has a habbit of rubbing on the steerer. This causes alloy deposits (black marks) which in turn cause clicky stems. Cured by sanding the black deposits off the steerer and compression washer and new grease.

They are ugly though.
That may be an issue with one brand only. It certainly isn't an endemic problem with Aheadsets. Chris King refused to pay the Ahead license at one stage and had their own system which was a poor version of the Ahead and that had problems.
 
Location
Loch side.
Cinelli XA. Nuff said. Beautiful.

No issues with quills.

The compression washer on ahead systems has a habbit of rubbing on the steerer. This causes alloy deposits (black marks) which in turn cause clicky stems. Cured by sanding the black deposits off the steerer and compression washer and new grease.

They are ugly though.
Naaaah. Ugly and difficult to work with.
Here's what the doctor ordered.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Old-S...y-Finish-26-0-mm-clamp-x-120-mm-/271305016503
 

KneesUp

Guru
I have an ahead converter in a quill stem. No doubt this worst-of-both-worlds-bodge would make some of you aesthetes vomit, but it means I can use a wide variety of stems on my existing bike.
 
Location
Loch side.
I have an ahead converter in a quill stem. No doubt this worst-of-both-worlds-bodge would make some of you aesthetes vomit, but it means I can use a wide variety of stems on my existing bike.
No, no vomiting here. It is a great fix for a flawed system. Even if the converter now gets stuck in the steerer, at least you can still get the headset off and fork out. It works like a charm and have them on two of our bikes.
 
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