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Pussy, Putin and the right to be insult religion
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srw
It's a bit more complicated than that...
http://newhumanist.org.uk/548/blasphemy-law-is-dead
I'm no fan of Tatchell, but this - and the fact that it took a private prosecution to bring about in the first place - rather demonstrates that any "ban" is in name only. Since then, a best-selling novel and two major Hollywood films have been released with similar subjects and no sniff of prosecution.
I'm no fan of blasphemy laws, but think that the environment in the UK is rather different to the environment in Putin's Russia.
(Incidentally - why the caff? It doesn't show up in my default list).
I'm no fan of Tatchell, but this - and the fact that it took a private prosecution to bring about in the first place - rather demonstrates that any "ban" is in name only. Since then, a best-selling novel and two major Hollywood films have been released with similar subjects and no sniff of prosecution.
I'm no fan of blasphemy laws, but think that the environment in the UK is rather different to the environment in Putin's Russia.
(Incidentally - why the caff? It doesn't show up in my default list).
Boris Bajic
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Sorry. I had the wrong brain in.
On a less jokey note, I do worry that a nasty sort of rightwing, xenophobic political movement not a million miles from what we see in Russia and the sort of set-up run pre-war by Max Mosley's dad will creep into the UK political mainstream some time soon.
I do not for a moment want to say that UKIP is any sort of BNP-lite, but I hear occasional disgraceful and xenophobic asides from UKIP supporters or 'disappointed' rightwing tories that make me wonder whether there will soon be some sort of 'acceptable' level of Mosleyite BU thinking creeping its way into parliament.
But for all that, I'll keep my joke-detecting reading lenses in for now.
TransientStates
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- Manchester
We do have some bizarre laws. Remember in 1991 Massive Attack had to drop Attack from their name because of a D Notice about the Gulf War? And yet Salad's Drink The Elixir (actually about golden showers and not the elixir of life) didn't even warrant a ban from Radio 1! We often laugh at the ridiculousness of other countries and cultures but we are a nation with some very peculiar and fickle laws and post-9/11 we can be prosecuted for tweeting a joke!
MissTillyFlop
Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
Good song, Drink The Elixir. Thanks for reminding me of it.
Thankfully the twitter joke trial ended with a judge with a brain and the conviction was overturned.
Maz
Guru
MissTillyFlop
Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
The one example of censorship which makes me laugh is Gay Bar by Electric 6.
In the Uk, they let the video pass for classification, but only if they edited out any reference to war, as it was at the beginning of the second Gulf war.
Just watch it and you'll see why this is funny as it possibly the least "offensive" ( I don't find any of it offensive, but I think inferring honest Abe liked putting hamsters up his bum may upset some) part of the video:
In the Uk, they let the video pass for classification, but only if they edited out any reference to war, as it was at the beginning of the second Gulf war.
Just watch it and you'll see why this is funny as it possibly the least "offensive" ( I don't find any of it offensive, but I think inferring honest Abe liked putting hamsters up his bum may upset some) part of the video:
Boris Bajic
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Was not Rock the Casbah off playlists for Desrt Shield and Desert Storm?
A more juvenile song was never writ (I like the Clash and saw them as a schoolboy at the EB) but it mentioned the Middle East, so it was dangerous.
Depleted Uranium is safe, but songs about the Casbah are not.
A more juvenile song was never writ (I like the Clash and saw them as a schoolboy at the EB) but it mentioned the Middle East, so it was dangerous.
Depleted Uranium is safe, but songs about the Casbah are not.
lordloveaduck
Well-Known Member
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- Birmingham
I say we march on the Russian embassy holding placards saying "Free Pussy Now"
and we don't leave until we see for ourselves that Pussy has been brought out in public
without any charge.
Who's with me "Free Pussy Now"
and we don't leave until we see for ourselves that Pussy has been brought out in public
without any charge.
Who's with me "Free Pussy Now"
I think you have to look at the context. This was at the altar of Moscow Cathedral. I don't myself see why we should have any blasphemy laws at all - people with such irrational beliefs shouldn't have their intellectual eccentricity protected - but I have no problem with prosecuting this sort of stunt. Protests which may be perfectly acceptable outside on the pavement are not acceptable in believers' private space.
Of course the Russian court proceedings are a gross over-reaction, but that's what happens when you insult the head of a police state.
LarryDuff
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- Hillsborough Co Down
New Labour were much more likely to pass Putin type laws.
agreed the Pussy Whatnots were out of order, and, yes, the reaction of the State is equally out of order. My point was really that in this country we pass or amend laws for what seem at the time like perfectly genuine reasons, and then.......five years down the line some old geezer is being arrested for wearing a t-shirt
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