Pure White and Deadly - The Sugar conspiracy (or why the world's obese) ...

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I eat the same amount of meat & dairy as I did before when I was putting on weight, in fact I now use full fat butter now where as before I was using low fat spread, and I am still losing weight. I am more than happy to concede that I am almost certainly not totally correct about these things because I am not a scientist nor a doctor but I know what makes me lose weight & that is cutting out as many products with added sugar as I can & I have posted the information where I can find it that would seem to back this up.

So where is the information to back up what you are saying as I would be interested in reading that as well, I am open to any & all theories as long as it doesn't involve blood letting or sacrifices.

I think I will be following your good example @phil_hg_uk.

I will stop adding sugar to my porridge and my first two coffees of the day. The rest of the day I do not have sugar in drinks anyway.

About once a week, I have a tin of soup when I cannot be bothering with preparing something for my evening meal. I will be looking closely at the sugar content of those, and try to get in the habit of making soup myself. There must be a recipe out there for quick and easy soup.

Cutting out all sugar could be tricky. Can I assume that 5g of sugar (as in the ingredients list) is equivalent to one teaspoon of sugar?
 

swee'pea99

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I think I will be following your good example @phil_hg_uk.

I will stop adding sugar to my porridge and my first two coffees of the day. The rest of the day I do not have sugar in drinks anyway.

About once a week, I have a tin of soup when I cannot be bothering with preparing something for my evening meal. I will be looking closely at the sugar content of those, and try to get in the habit of making soup myself. There must be a recipe out there for quick and easy soup.

Cutting out all sugar could be tricky. Can I assume that 5g of sugar (as in the ingredients list) is equivalent to one teaspoon of sugar?
One teaspoon = 4g is the standard rule. Easy soup: chop up any veges you have hanging around, fry them for about 15 mins till they're softening, add stock (I recommend Knorr cube in 450mm of water), maybe a bit of seasoning, depending how you like it, then in the liquidizer. Ta-da! Soup.
 
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Sorry, missed your post. I should point out that I use sugar in my own curing mixes - it's not a commercial-only thing.
The traditional Scandanavian way 'Gravadlax' uses sugar and salt as the cure so clearly not a modern affectation (as I know you know).
 

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One teaspoon = 4g is the standard rule. Easy soup: chop up any veges you have hanging around, fry them for about 15 mins till they're softening, add stock (I recommend Knorr cube in 450mm of water), maybe a bit of seasoning, depending how you like it, then in the liquidizer. Ta-da! Soup.

Ta da! soup? Thank you, I will try that recipe. I suppose I could even use frozen veg, onions, etc.
 

swee'pea99

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Ta da! soup? Thank you, I will try that recipe. I suppose I could even use frozen veg, onions, etc.
Anything. Seriously. It's a good way to use things like broccoli & cauliflower stalks. It's all the same once it's been zizzed. You'll be surprised how nice it is.
 

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Anything. Seriously. It's a good way to use things like broccoli & cauliflower stalks. It's all the same once it's been zizzed. You'll be surprised how nice it is.

Excellent idea! I do not like eating thick cauliflower stalks, so I cut them off. I shall be saving them for soup in future. If I make a large batch of soup, it should not be too difficult to freeze portions, and then remember to take them out of the freezer in the morning.
 
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The traditional Scandanavian way 'Gravadlax' uses sugar and salt as the cure so clearly not a modern affectation (as I know you know).

Yep. I doubt that much ends up in the final product though: with hot smoking, you wash off the cure very thoroughly.
 

ColinJ

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I will be making some spicy veggie soup today. What I put in it will be dependent on what I have lying about. I know that I have some carrots, parsnips and a green pepper. There may be some other vegetables. I always include a tin of chopped tomatoes - hardly any calories per tin, cheap, and tasty. I always add ginger, garlic and mixed herbs, and often some chillis and/or curry powder. I boil the veg rather than fry it and use the water as stock for the soup. The only less healthy ingredient that I use is soy sauce, which has a lot of salt/sugar in it so be sparing with that if you use it.

I use a liquidiser at the end of cooking to get a thick consistency, with just a few chunks of vegetables left to make it more interesting. Thick soup is very filling because the digestive system takes time to separate the water from the rest of the ingredients. Thin soup doesn't do the job so effectively despite having the same things in it.

That soup is for days when I am trying to keep my calorie count down. On other days I would add extras such as a tin of red kidney beans, chickpeas, or butterbeans.

I did work out the calories for a huge bowl of my soup once. The number was so small that I don't even bother thinking about it now!

Similarly, I make massive salads for low-cal days. You can eat vast quantities of salad leaves, celery, cucumber, cress, spring onions etc. because they contain very few calories. You do have to skip high-cal salad dressings though. Try some nice vinegar, lemon juice, black pepper and crushed garlic with very small additions of high-cal extras such as olive oil, honey and multigrain mustard. A tasty dressing probably has at least 3 times the calories of the salad itself so be vigilant there!
 

ColinJ

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Excellent idea! I do not like eating thick cauliflower stalks, so I cut them off. I shall be saving them for soup in future. If I make a large batch of soup, it should not be too difficult to freeze portions, and then remember to take them out of the freezer in the morning.
It's funny how many people chuck away stalks of cauliflower, broccoli etc. My older sister was watching me prepare some veg and was aghast when I included the stalks! I told her to trust me ... I always cut the hard outer layer off, and then cut the rest into smallish blocks which will cook in the same time as the rest of the vegetable. It just gets mixed in with the rest of the veg.
 
I have now been sweets, choccy, cake, biscuit etc free for 42 days :ohmy:
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So they even put sugar on smoked salmon - blimey!!!!! :eek:
I've been (for easiness sake and not having to faff with making proper food when hungry) been using Weight Watchers frozen meals for some of my starvation days. They have bloody sugar in them. Who wants sugar in their lasagne? Even worse was one of their tuna/sweetcorn tins - so sweet it was inedible. Why do they think people want sweet tuna? xx( and thrice xx(
These people are supposed to be selling stuff that helps weight loss!
 
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Fab Foodie

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Yep. I doubt that much ends up in the final product though: with hot smoking, you wash off the cure very thoroughly.
True, I thinks it's major effect is to help pull the moisture out of the fish and prevent any unwanted fermentations (except maybe some lactic) whilst it's hanging around.
 
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Fab Foodie

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
It's funny how many people chuck away stalks of cauliflower, broccoli etc. My older sister was watching me prepare some veg and was aghast when I included the stalks! I told her to trust me ... I always cut the hard outer layer off, and then cut the rest into smallish blocks which will cook in the same time as the rest of the vegetable. It just gets mixed in with the rest of the veg.
I remove the hard outer layer and eat the stalks raw .... Yummy!
 
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