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gbb

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Peterborough
Small hole in the tyre ?. Small enough to overlook, but big enough to allow the tube to herniate through it, then it pops ?
Have you run your fingers around the inside of the tyre, preferably pushing the tyre almost inside out to force any glass or wire through so youocan feel it ?
Rim tape, check minutely.
Rim itself, as above.
Minutely inspect everything, its easy to overlook something small.

The hub...dissapointing but at least they're looking at it again without putting up a fight. All depends on what the actual problem really is, manufacturing defect ?, poor assembly ?, poor maintenance ?...none of them are their fault...but they do have a responsibility for two of them.
 
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mikey199090

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I have read your post and don't see why Ribble can be at fault for the punctures. You rode for 2 months with none then suddenly they start to occur - you say you have checked for sharp objects in the tyre and looked at the rim but really - how well. Is the puncture on the outside or inside of the tube - outside and it just aint their fault at all -it's in the tyre. Inside and it's something in the rim tape. If there is nothing in the tyre nothing in the rim tape and no big bits of alloy from the wheel poking into the tube then it won't pop - simple.


I never said i havent had a puncture whilst i have had the bike as i have. But i put three inner tubes in this tyre one after another and every one of them burst. As i said i ran my hand over the tyre inside and out couldnt feel or see any sharp objects in there so it had me baffled. I didnt blame ribble for the punctures, i was putting a complaint about the wheel still making the grinding noise i asked about some advice about the punctures
 
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mikey199090

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Small hole in the tyre ?. Small enough to overlook, but big enough to allow the tube to herniate through it, then it pops ?
Have you run your fingers around the inside of the tyre, preferably pushing the tyre almost inside out to force any glass or wire through so youocan feel it ?
Rim tape, check minutely.
Rim itself, as above.
Minutely inspect everything, its easy to overlook something small.

The hub...dissapointing but at least they're looking at it again without putting up a fight. All depends on what the actual problem really is, manufacturing defect ?, poor assembly ?, poor maintenance ?...none of them are their fault...but they do have a responsibility for two of them.

Ive ran my hand round the rim and tyre pushed tyre out still nothing found mate, baffeling!

Its not down to my maintainance i clean, degrease and oil my bike up every week. Im thinking its a manufacture error or maybe the freehub has got water/dirt inside somehow? But as you say its good they have just said they will send me a brand new one.

I was dreading going through it with them as ive read bad reviews about there customer service, maybe its the way you come across to people.
 
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gbb

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Peterborough
read the original post....it originally went back for sh*te in the freehub :scratch:...that should'nt happen on a 2 month old bike..forget the punctures
There lies the problem...interpretation of the problem. Was it actually sh*te in the freehub ? How the hell does anything get in there and how would you know, its effectively a sealed unit so you can't really see it unless you strip the whole thing out...which i doubt OP has.
If it is sh*te, it begs the question...is that really the manufacturers or suppliers fault ? If...and i say IF,, its been ridden in dirty conditions and not cleaned or maintained, the supplier can't be held responsible. IF thats the case.
Interpretation and actually knowing can be poles apart.
Degreaser used ?...i always get nervous about degreaser. If its not used very carefully, you can do as much harm as good. Has the degreaser found its way into the freehub ? and effectively killed it ?
So many unknowns...i'd strip it down if it were mine, just to try to get to the real knub of it all.
 
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I never said i havent had a puncture whilst i have had the bike as i have. But i put three inner tubes in this tyre one after another and every one of them burst. As i said i ran my hand over the tyre inside and out couldnt feel or see any sharp objects in there so it had me baffled. I didnt blame ribble for the punctures, i was putting a complaint about the wheel still making the grinding noise i asked about some advice about the punctures
Your description of the problem is contradictory. Now you say that each and every tube burst. First it was a puncture.
Punctures are not rocket science. Don't bother searching the entire tyre for the source of the puncture. Just search at the spot on the tyre corresponding to the tube's puncture. Shards of glass don't protrude. The shard is thinner than the tyre and sits inside the tyre, only to pop out and zap the tube when that spot is compressed at the contact zone on the road. Find the suspect spot and look for minute cuts on the OUTSIDE of the tyre. Squeeze the cut open and pry in there with a metal needle or knife tip. A scratchy feeling will reveal the shard's location and you can extract it.

As for tubes bursting, here's a fact that's not all that obvious and most people will dispute this but a tube cannot burst inside a tyre. It has to be outside the tyre to burst. However, he mechanism by which that happens is obscure. Under pressure, the tube starts to herniate outside the tyre at a spot where the tyre is not seated properly or the sidewall has a small cut etc. It then rapidly inflates, bursts and withdraws back inside. But it has to be outside to burst. The fact that it withdraws makes it difficult to pinpoint the problem.
 

Milkfloat

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If it is sh*te, it begs the question...is that really the manufacturers or suppliers fault ? If...and i say IF,, its been ridden in dirty conditions and not cleaned or maintained, the supplier can't be held responsible. I

It is pretty immaterial, the supplier (retailer) is liable. A freehub / hub / axle should be fit for purpose - 2 months life is not fit for purpose. So unless the OP caused the damage the retailer has to sort the issue.
 

earlestownflya

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There lies the problem...interpretation of the problem. Was it actually sh*te in the freehub ? How the hell does anything get in there and how would you know, its effectively a sealed unit so you can't really see it unless you strip the whole thing out...which i doubt OP has.
If it is sh*te, it begs the question...is that really the manufacturers or suppliers fault ? If...and i say IF,, its been ridden in dirty conditions and not cleaned or maintained, the supplier can't be held responsible. IF thats the case.
Interpretation and actually knowing can be poles apart.
Degreaser used ?...i always get nervous about degreaser. If its not used very carefully, you can do as much harm as good. Has the degreaser found its way into the freehub ? and effectively killed it ?
So many unknowns...i'd strip it down if it were mine, just to try to get to the real knub of it all.
DEGREASER!!... shudder:sad:..i'd like to hope no-body goes anywhere near their hubs with the stuff...there's products out there claiming to be an overall bike cleaner,saying it's safe use on components including the drivetrain...it is'nt..if you're new to cycling don't go spraying this stuff all over your bike.
 
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mikey199090

mikey199090

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No i havent touched the bike with degreaser i never will. Alls ive done is washed it down wiped the chain and casette over re oiled. Unless ive done something wrong? Is there something i can use in the future with my new rim to stop this happening again? I re-fitted the new rim today, perfect no problems. Its as quite as a mouse. Not like the old one it was really loud like a grinding noise it was really strange.
 

gbb

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Location
Peterborough
Theres been a lot of theorising and ifs and buts from us Mikey. Its what we do, try to interpret the actual problem and solution. It may seem a little fustrating if it goes off at a tangent.
Glad you're sorted :okay:
 
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mikey199090

mikey199090

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Theres been a lot of theorising and ifs and buts from us Mikey. Its what we do, try to interpret the actual problem and solution. It may seem a little fustrating if it goes off at a tangent.
Glad you're sorted :okay:

Totally understand. I apreciate all your comments. Its a little frustrating when it puts me without a bike when its my commute to work to but i will learn from this and get a spare set incase i have any problems in the future
 
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