Presta Valve - Help!

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Femto

New Member
Just as a matter of interest; which came first? Presta or Schrader and what's the main reason for choosing Presta over Schrader? Are Schraders too wide to fit into narrow road rims or something?
 

ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
colinr said:
Possibly a stupid question, but is there a trick to this?
Yes, I think there is. When I'm pumping up a tyre after a puncture i.e. with my frame pump I always:-
- do it with the wheel out of the frame
- balance the wheel by its valve on top of the pump
- put the end of the pump against a hard object at about waist height; tree, wall, whatever
- pump against the resistence of the wall, with one hand on the barrel of the pump and the other on the handle, keeping the wheel in place gently with my forearm.

This means that I never transmit the force of the pumping action to the valve or wheel. I can also apply a lot more effort and therefore get more air in. I use £1.99 cheapo tubes and have never ripped one.

You do need a track pump Colin. The hand pump is only for roadside repairs. I have a cheap plastic one which is light enough to fly with. You don't need one with a guauge.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
Femto said:
Just as a matter of interest; which came first? Presta or Schrader and what's the main reason for choosing Presta over Schrader? Are Schraders too wide to fit into narrow road rims or something?

I think prestas came first, but don't quote me in a pub quiz, and yes, Schraders don't fit though presta sized holes. (unless you drill them)
 

alecstilleyedye

nothing in moderation
Moderator
i've had a wrench force big bob for about 8 years, and it's been faultless. highly recommended.

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jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
A LBS will have a flexible adaptor. The only requirement is that the valve end ( female ) has a DEEP union.

With a flexible adaptor, you screw it on the Presta, and on the pump end ( male ), screw on a brass Schrader adaptor and hey-presto, you can use a garage air supply on a Presta.

Garage air supplies go up to about 85 psi. The rest you put in with your arms.
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
fossyant said:
That's not a nut - it's a dust cover. That blackburn is fine - I've had one for some time.

One - ditch the metal nut on the presta valve which you use to tighten onto rim - that induces stress when pumping.

With the blackburn, you just pop it on the valve, and flick the lever out to lock on.

You just need to put less stress on the valve, that's how you've damaged the join.

I suspect we're both technically incorrect in a way. Its simply a way of retaining the rubber insert. Without that cover / nut / retainer, the rubber insert cannot be contained of course, and will be lost. (thats obvious BTW, i'm not being sarcastic :blush:)
I missed the point that this pump has a lever to 'clamp' the rubber onto the valve, so my suggestion does'nt apply to this type of pump...only the normal frame type pumps.
But, for anyone reading with a 'normal' frame type pump....my suggestion does relieve a lot of stress on the valve.


Anyways, for colins problem...perhaps the quality of tubes aint what it used to be. Ive had tubes split and seperate around the valve...that was before i even got the pump on :wacko: I think its simply the weakest point of the tube. No surprise they go once in a while.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
byegad said:
Or change to schrader!

Is there any real advantage to using Presta? I apreciate you don't need to overcome the spring resistance when pumping them up and that they are probably 0.000000000045lbs lighter if you are obsessed with weight but I think they're nowhere near as convenient as Shrader. I have them on my Carlton but they came with the second hand wheels I bought. I have Shrader on my MTB and Woods on my old Raleigh and in comparison, I find Presta much more hassle to work with. So much so, that if I ever need new tubes for my Carlton, I'm going to drill the rims to fit Shrader.:blush:
 
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