Rohloff_Brompton_Rider
Formerly just_fixed
Nonsense and your attempts to make me look a fool are simply not working - why are you taking such an aggressive stance? What are you hoping to gain? Does it somehow make you feel good about yourself?
Plantar Fasciitis
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I am not looking to make you look a fool. You pushed an untested spice forward as having anti-inflammatory properties, and despite having the chance to back up your claims with evidence, you can't. There is no difference between claiming that tumeric has x properties (untested), and that rhino horn can cure impotence. There is the same amount of evidence for both. Provide the evidence and I'll retract, of course, but I have an extremely low threshold for snake oil claims. This isn't about me, or you.........it is about evidence. If the stuff works, it would have been tested in clinical trials, side effects noted, efficacy analysed, dosages worked out, licences issued, and it would be available on the NHS. Until those papers are published, this is woo.
Rohloff_Brompton_Rider
Formerly just_fixed
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Dear oh dear! Can you read? Can you not even use the basic of basic database search engines Google Scholar? And enter turmeric +anti inflammatory? Then click since 2010 to ensure recent trials come up?
Charming.
Look, you made the claim. The burden of evidence (onus) is therefore on you to back it up. I have googled it, and found no clinical trials have been conducted on turmeric/ curcumin as an anti-inflammatory (there are squillions of alternative medicine sites advocating its use, but without any supporting evidence.....no trials, and no papers). My first port of call is always the Cochrane report, which collates these things. Nothing under turmeric, and the active ingredient curcumin, has 7 entries....and nothing whatsoever to do with anti-inflammatory properties. Wiki has no link to any papers. Indeed, it says:
So, you might want to gamble with that its possible placebo effects outweigh its carcinogenic effects, but you shouldn't be advocating that others do so until there is good evidence that it is safe, and it works. At the moment, no such evidence exists. As I say, I am happy to retract in the face of evidence. Now, don't take this personally, and don't think that I am. I am only interested in the evidence.
Rohloff_Brompton_Rider
Formerly just_fixed
Dude, I can't be arsed with this pissing contest and anyone who wants to be bothered can very very easily find the evidence themselves.
This has come to an end for me and I'm out, and I can almost predict your next post.
I just got duded!! And yet you couldn't link to a single piece of evidence yourself. I wonder why that is?
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hobbitonabike
Formerly EbonyWillow
- Location
- Furness, South Lakes
I did an extremely hilly half marathon with PF using the methods above and plenty of correctly applied strapping. It is do able if you want to do it...not saying it was particularly comfortable but I got round 6 minutes faster than the previous year. Just take care of yourself either way.
The point I am making about not running is that you can only get rid of the PF after you stop. Carrying on running may well be perfectly possible, but the clock doesn't start ticking on the recovery period for this painful injury until you stop running. Indeed, you'll be making it worse.
The good news is that once you have got rid of it, there is no great worry about it coming back, and running should be pain-free as before. Two years ago my wife could barely walk with PF. At the moment she is running over 40 miles a week, and expects to do her first marathon (in under 4 hours) in a few weeks time.
The good news is that once you have got rid of it, there is no great worry about it coming back, and running should be pain-free as before. Two years ago my wife could barely walk with PF. At the moment she is running over 40 miles a week, and expects to do her first marathon (in under 4 hours) in a few weeks time.
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flissh
Active Member
I've not been on cycle chat lately, but had to post on this thread. I had plantar faciitis for nearly two years. I tried everything, night splints, exercises, taping, anti inflammatories, well felt like everything. It was my second bout of PF, I had had it years before, for a few months, and just had a course of anti inflammatories then.
Anyhow, at the end of my tether, i found a thread on here and turmeric and glucosamine was mentioned, I gave it a go and my PF went.
Now, I fully accept that it may have just cleared up anyway, I'd had it long enough. But I know that if I got it again that is what I would try first.
The only down side to getting rid of the PF is that I cycle less now as I'm running again, in fact it was the PF that made me get a bike, because I stopped running while I had it.
Anyhow, at the end of my tether, i found a thread on here and turmeric and glucosamine was mentioned, I gave it a go and my PF went.
Now, I fully accept that it may have just cleared up anyway, I'd had it long enough. But I know that if I got it again that is what I would try first.
The only down side to getting rid of the PF is that I cycle less now as I'm running again, in fact it was the PF that made me get a bike, because I stopped running while I had it.
Trull
Über Member
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
My PF was managed with physio intervention, sports massage, so I engaged the professionals at my gym to great effect. Rolling a golf ball and a large ball bearing around my feet gently helps post run as well...but ultimately if its proper PF then you need professional help.
I had pf through running at the same time as I broke 2nd metatarsal in the other foot also running! I'd take the break any day. Pretty much gave up running for about 6-8 months as it was to painful and started cycling. Pf took around a year to clear up and I feel nothing there now, but if I so much as feel it twinge I'll stop running straight away I just don't want it back! Definitely go with rolling the foot over a frozen bottle of water.
