Pinarello heaven but what to do?
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smokeysmoo
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The CAAD's all comes as compacts, my CAAD10 DA is also a compact. A compact is a double, but refers specifically to the inner chainring, generally 34 teeth on a compact compared to generally 39 teeth on a standard double. Triple's move it on further with the addition of a third chainring, (not necessary IMHO on a road bike).
The compact is a great compromise when getting into road bikes, it helps you on the toughest hills and retains a reasonable turn of speed on the flat sections.
IMHO the CAAD10 105 at £999, (or £950 even better!) is a complete no brainer, but please remember, as a CAAD10 owner I might be biased
The compact is a great compromise when getting into road bikes, it helps you on the toughest hills and retains a reasonable turn of speed on the flat sections.
IMHO the CAAD10 105 at £999, (or £950 even better!) is a complete no brainer, but please remember, as a CAAD10 owner I might be biased
Sittingduck
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How on Earth can they justify pricing a Tiagra specced bike at this kind of money. They can't even make the forks straight!
Rob3rt
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So they didnt sling a pair of pedals on, set the saddle to the right height and let you take the bike out for a test ride? They could at least have put the bike on a turbo for you :S I know someone who works in a leisurelakes bikes store, I'll comment to him about this and ask if its the norm or if you got fobbed off by a shoot salesman.
As for the bike being very race specific, well in some respects he is right, the CAAD frame is a purebred racer, its stiff in all the right places and has a reasonably aggresive racing geometry. This can mean its a bit head down, arse up, and a bit harsh to ride. BUT....... this can be remedied by setting it up to suit your needs, the stem can be turned upside down (or a different stem fitted), this will raise the bars somewhat. The addition of a carbon seatpost will ease out some of the ride harshness. Then if you do want to go fast as fast can be at some point you set it up to race.
The Synapse has a taller headtube, this effectivelly raises the bars giving a more relaxed ride possition, its a bike aimed at people who fantasise about racing, but will never actually do it. To set it up to get a true race setup as far as ride possition is concerned, it wouldnt be too hard you could use some absurdly aggressive stem angle or pop all the headset spacers on top of the stem, rather than under it BUT it will never be as stiff as a CAAD. One main feature of the synapse is the SAVE seat stays, these are a special design which acts as micro suspension smoothing out the ride, it actually works, its good, but I'd still rather ride a CAAD.
The CAAD is the benchmark alu frame, it will race with the best of them, it will also suit a sportive rider (pretend racer). It will depend on setup.
just found a caad10 105 compact for £950 online
what is the difference between this and the 105
cheers once again for your help but i dont wanna make any expensive mistakes
Compact, Double and Triple refer to front chainsets, a compact and a double have 2 chainrings, a triple has 3. Compacts usually have lower teeth counts and I THINK, a larger gap between the tooth count on the big ring and small ring.
Only if you are a sissy.
Read above for difference in CAAD and synapse.
The difference between the CAAD8 and the CAAD10 is just the trickle down technology. The CAAD10 is a more refined version of the CAAD frame design. The CAAD8 was once previously the top frame, then a new one came along, so CAAD9, then a better one came out, CAAD10 and so on. I have a CAAD9, they didnt have a CAAD9 this year, not sure why. Probly a marketing strategy.
Rob3rt
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How on Earth can they justify pricing a Tiagra specced bike at this kind of money. They can't even make the forks straight!
Pinarello bikes are always over priced and they are damn ugly. When I got my 1st road bike, they had a sora equipped pinarello in stock, £1k.
smokeysmoo
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Not forgetting Rob that the CAAD10 has SAVE chainstays also to assist with a compliant ride, and believe me, they work as well
Rob3rt
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Not forgetting Rob that the CAAD10 has SAVE chainstays also to assist with a compliant ride, and believe me, they work as well
I didnt know it had save seat stays, the CAAD9 didnt, probly why its so harsh. The Slice has the SAVE seat stays.
smokeysmoo
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Never ridden a CAAD9, but it certainly works on the 10. It's actually got SAVE chain stays not seat stays though
Rob3rt
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Never ridden a CAAD9, but it certainly works on the 10. It's actually got SAVE chain stays not seat stays though
Hmm, dunno, not looked at a CAAD10 in the flesh, I should be picking my Slice up on tuesday though
Cant wait.
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alci4
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The CAAD's all comes as compacts, my CAAD10 DA is also a compact. A compact is a double, but refers specifically to the inner chainring, generally 34 teeth on a compact compared to generally 39 teeth on a standard double. Triple's move it on further with the addition of a third chainring, (not necessary IMHO on a road bike).
The compact is a great compromise when getting into road bikes, it helps you on the toughest hills and retains a reasonable turn of speed on the flat sections.
IMHO the CAAD10 105 at £999, (or £950 even better!) is a complete no brainer, but please remember, as a CAAD10 owner I might be biased
yeah you may be biased but anyone that passionate about their ride says only good things about the bike
smokeysmoo
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Yeah I am biased, but I tell the truth with it
Rob - Thanks for the information.
To sum up, are you basically saying the geometry of the bikes is the main difference then between the Synapse and the CAAD bikes?
Is the 105 a big difference over the Tiagra?
Tbh it's infectious! Especially when as the OP has said you can get the CAAD10 105 for £950!
http://triuk.com/product/cannondale-2011-caad-10-105-compact
To sum up, are you basically saying the geometry of the bikes is the main difference then between the Synapse and the CAAD bikes?
Is the 105 a big difference over the Tiagra?
Yeah I am biased, but I tell the truth with it
Tbh it's infectious! Especially when as the OP has said you can get the CAAD10 105 for £950!
http://triuk.com/product/cannondale-2011-caad-10-105-compact
With that in mind, why is it you could literally spend thoasands on a Synapse model such as the ones below if in theory the Synapse is aimed at people who only fantasise about racing? (Genuinely just interested to know why you can spend a lot of money on something which is ineffect more comfortable and not as streamlined as the CAAD or similar range?)
http://triuk.com/search/luceneapi_node/cannondale synapse
smokeysmoo
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The main reason being carbon fibre. Why pay more for a bike that will weigh more than the CAAD10?
Cheers! I guess that really shows how light the CAAD10 bike is then. (Can't see me getting the Synapse after i've seen a CAAD10 instore!)
