Persistent offender killed cyclist while driving & texting
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EnPassant
Remember Remember some date in November Member
- Location
- Gloucester
Lack of imagination on my part. I'm sure you could come up with a better one.
And yes, that's what I'm getting at.
As above.
OP
OP
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
In the example above where four people were killed while cycling, that driver chose to go out in poor conditions in a car which had three bald tyres on it.
Despite the bizarre view of the magistrates that the tyres had no bearing on the collision, it shows that the driver was someone who gave no thought to the dangers he posed in a car that wasn't fit to be on the road. He still chose to use it.
GC
I recall (dimly, I admit) that the magistrates in the Rhyl case were advised by the police that the condition of the tyres had no bearing on whether or not the driver lost control on the black ice, it would have happened even with legal tyres. I imagine magistrates typically take police information as gospel.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
The condition of the vehicle will have been outlined to the magistrates as a matter of fact - the tyres were bald.
The relevance of that will have been outlined to the magistrates as a matter of comment - the bald tyres didn't contribute to the collision - which the magistrates can make of what they will, although they very likely accepted it.
One might ask why collision investigator mentions the tyres at all if they were not relevant, but it does give the magistrates an indication of the general attitude of the defendant to his motoring.
It also robs him of any mitigation along the lines of: "I am always very careful to keep my car maintained to the proper standard."
Clean windows is another one, I've heard investigation reports that cite the windows were dirty.
Again it might not be relevant, but it's another little dent in the defendant's armour.
The ever present possibility of a crash is one of the reasons why I keep my car well up together.
If I am involved in an incident, the investigation into me at least starts on the right foot.
And another:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-37337793
Previously convicted of speeding and drink driving, but still allowed behind the wheel of a 13.5 tonne HGV
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-37337793
Previously convicted of speeding and drink driving, but still allowed behind the wheel of a 13.5 tonne HGV
Because it means that in some cases it isn't
summerdays
Cycling in the sun
- Location
- Bristol
Why is it not a requirement that you need a clean driving licence to get behind the wheel as your occupation?
Why is it not a requirement that you need a clean driving licence to get behind the wheel as your occupation?
Unfortunately there is so much competition and pressure that the targets can often only be met by "bending" the rules
The drivers who are willing to bend these rules will not have clean licenses
OP
OP
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
That's disgusting. Why the fark should he ever be considered suitable to be in control of any vehicle ever again?
I'm truly baffled by this.
GC
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
Why is it not a requirement that you need a clean driving licence to get behind the wheel as your occupation?
At the other end of the scale, a barrister acquaintance of mine was due to be appointed as a circuit judge - the type that sits in the crown court.
Her appointment was delayed after it emerged she had six points on her driving licence - two three-point speeding camera offences.
The appointment of judges is not the most open of books, but the impression I got was she might have been appointed with, say, three points of some age about to come off, but six fairly fresh ones was a no-no.
She was appointed after all the points expired.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Driver in OP case to appeal against the sentence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-37975561
OP
OP
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Someone simply behaves dangerously with a shotgun, or even gets convicted of a violence offence that doesn't involve their firearm, they'd have their certificate revoked and would never get it back.
Actually kill someone behind the wheel and at worst you can have your driving ticket back in a few years. Insanity.
Driving a motor vehicle is a privilege and society should treat it more as such, and demand that people exercise the utmost of diligence and respect in order to maintain that privilege.
Actually kill someone behind the wheel and at worst you can have your driving ticket back in a few years. Insanity.
Driving a motor vehicle is a privilege and society should treat it more as such, and demand that people exercise the utmost of diligence and respect in order to maintain that privilege.
