cougie uk
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I'm just saying that on the site - it's linked to the Companies House account for Bike Taxi.
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I'm just saying that on the site - it's linked to the Companies House account for Bike Taxi.
Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
OK - here's my theory.
The original founders (including Sargent and Knowles - who are named as founders of PedalMe on the Wiki page) had an idea and founded the company Bike Taxi Ltd on 1 Feb 2017 Their names are on the Bike Taxi registration.
On reflection, and maybe on advice from a hipster with a stupid haircut specialising in web marketing, they decided to trade under the name of PedalMe as Bike Taxi wasn't cool enough. But they had already registered the company as Bike Taxi Ltd. No worries, they just used PedalMe as a trading name/service name.
This is reflected in their terms and conditions https://pedalme.co.uk/terms/ where they say: 'Pedal Me' is a service operated by Bike Taxi Limited, and the fact that Bike Taxi Ltd have registered "PedalMe" as a trademark UK00003329814. PedalMe is the name of the service, not the company.
Meanwhile, some other people, noting what was going on, founded the company Pedal Me Ltd, on 8 Jun 2017. Quite what their motivation was I don't know. Maybe they were hoping to take advantage of the fact that PedalMe was only a trading name and hoped to squat on the company name. Or perhaps they were associates of the Bike Taxi people and registered it in order to protect the name. Or possibly they had independently come up with PedalMe as a name for a company, and didn't know about the Bike Taxi people using it. I don't know. They never traded or did anything. Company accounts were always zero assets, zero income.
Eventually the founders of Pedal Me Ltd decided that, whatever their motivation was, they were wasting time submitting returns and keeping a non-trading company registered. So they dissolved it.
I could be totally wrong there, but it's a theory. I don't think that the PedalMe Ltd company that has been dissolved had any real relevance to the organisation running the PedalMe app and website.
https://www.tide.co/blog/business-tips/company-name-vs-trading-name-whats-the-difference/
The original founders (including Sargent and Knowles - who are named as founders of PedalMe on the Wiki page) had an idea and founded the company Bike Taxi Ltd on 1 Feb 2017 Their names are on the Bike Taxi registration.
On reflection, and maybe on advice from a hipster with a stupid haircut specialising in web marketing, they decided to trade under the name of PedalMe as Bike Taxi wasn't cool enough. But they had already registered the company as Bike Taxi Ltd. No worries, they just used PedalMe as a trading name/service name.
This is reflected in their terms and conditions https://pedalme.co.uk/terms/ where they say: 'Pedal Me' is a service operated by Bike Taxi Limited, and the fact that Bike Taxi Ltd have registered "PedalMe" as a trademark UK00003329814. PedalMe is the name of the service, not the company.
Meanwhile, some other people, noting what was going on, founded the company Pedal Me Ltd, on 8 Jun 2017. Quite what their motivation was I don't know. Maybe they were hoping to take advantage of the fact that PedalMe was only a trading name and hoped to squat on the company name. Or perhaps they were associates of the Bike Taxi people and registered it in order to protect the name. Or possibly they had independently come up with PedalMe as a name for a company, and didn't know about the Bike Taxi people using it. I don't know. They never traded or did anything. Company accounts were always zero assets, zero income.
Eventually the founders of Pedal Me Ltd decided that, whatever their motivation was, they were wasting time submitting returns and keeping a non-trading company registered. So they dissolved it.
I could be totally wrong there, but it's a theory. I don't think that the PedalMe Ltd company that has been dissolved had any real relevance to the organisation running the PedalMe app and website.
https://www.tide.co/blog/business-tips/company-name-vs-trading-name-whats-the-difference/
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dutchguylivingintheuk
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Whatever the reasons where the trademark will have gave them the upperhand if there ever was an issue with the company using the same name. Think they steps away from Bike Taxi for the same reasons.(a other trademark that could lead to a ''you copied us claim'' with trademarks an ''extreme likelyness'' is enough)
I think it's a little bit different if you look at their structure primarily under ''come ride with us'' you see a base salary and commision structure so the most likely reason for founding an company with that name is that they where or where intending to start riding for them.(Bike taxi/pedalme)
However depending on employees, turnover etc. and ltd. company isn't nessacerly the best choice.
Either they stopped or never drove for them or the income they made from it meant it was better to claim as self-employed rather than from an ltd company.
Jameshow
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Boopop
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It's obvious that cargo bikes cannot cover every job in many businesses. Similarly, it's pretty obvious that there's plenty of jobs that even builders can use cargo bikes for. That's why Conway use them in London.
Remember, it's never about transitioning all journeys to bikes, it's always about transitioning where possible to bikes.
View: https://twitter.com/RKWinvisibleman/status/1308339103755370498
cougie uk
Guru
Lots of builders merchant stuff can be taken by bike. But clearly they're not going to be delivering tonnes of bricks.
Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Just an aside but I was in Antwerp for work a couple of years ago. Walking through the back streets early in the morning to get to the office I noticed lots of electric cargo bikes going about their business. I think I happened to be walking through a bit of Antwerp that had a lot of warehouses, so I was seeing the morning deliveries going out and as it's not a huge city this would make a cargo bike quite sensible.
Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Exhuming an old thread.
Pedal Me appear to be alive and well. I saw a rider on a loaded Pedal Me branded E cargo bike, wearing a Pedal Me tabard at the Elephant and Castle this morning.
And their website appears to be alive too.
https://www.pedalme.co.uk/
Edit: After a bit of reading around, what appears to have happened is that Biketaxi, the company that was crowdfunded, went bust and crowdfunders lost their investment. But some existing shareholders bought up the assets, including the pedalme name which kept them trading. This was either typical capitalist skulduggery or heroic saving oof jobs or something else altogether.
Second edit, I didn't need to read around. It was all in the emails quoted by @winjim above
Pedal Me appear to be alive and well. I saw a rider on a loaded Pedal Me branded E cargo bike, wearing a Pedal Me tabard at the Elephant and Castle this morning.
And their website appears to be alive too.
https://www.pedalme.co.uk/
Edit: After a bit of reading around, what appears to have happened is that Biketaxi, the company that was crowdfunded, went bust and crowdfunders lost their investment. But some existing shareholders bought up the assets, including the pedalme name which kept them trading. This was either typical capitalist skulduggery or heroic saving oof jobs or something else altogether.
Second edit, I didn't need to read around. It was all in the emails quoted by @winjim above
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Boopop
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Yes @Dogtrousers , they never really went away, just ended up with new owners and existing shareholders getting shafted.
I still approve of what they do and I'm glad they exist, but when I see them now on iBike London, Critical Mass or any other London event it's not as pleasant a feeling as it used to be. Oh well, I kept them running, it just turned out to be a poor investment. Not a huge surprise - only invest what you can afford to lose! Fortunately that's exactly what I did. I'd gladly have my £500 back however 😆
I still approve of what they do and I'm glad they exist, but when I see them now on iBike London, Critical Mass or any other London event it's not as pleasant a feeling as it used to be. Oh well, I kept them running, it just turned out to be a poor investment. Not a huge surprise - only invest what you can afford to lose! Fortunately that's exactly what I did. I'd gladly have my £500 back however 😆