Paris - Nice (*Spoiler*)

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smutchin

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The Red Enclave
Wiggo went well. He's looking good and talking confidently. Given Evans' age, Contador's absence and the Schlecks' inability to time trial he must be fancying his chances in the TdF this year.

Got to agree with FM's assessment - Sky are in good form as a team but it's far too early to predict how the main players will look by the time the grand tours come around. On the other hand, Wiggins will probably say he's in the same boat and still some way off peak form himself...

Boonen is looking great at the moment. This year's Phil Gilbert perhaps?

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iLB

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LONDON
Fantastic distraction from studying in the library to watch Wiggins in the break today, can't get over how thin the guy is though !

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rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Got to agree with FM's assessment - Sky are in good form as a team but it's far too early to predict how the main players will look by the time the grand tours come around. On the other hand, Wiggins will probably say he's in the same boat and still some way off peak form himself...

Boonen is looking great at the moment. This year's Phil Gilbert perhaps?

d.
I wasn't actually predicting how the GC contenders will be in July other than saying that the Schlecks can't ITT, Bertie's banned and Cuddles is getting on a bit:thumbsup:
 

Buddfox

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London
I know Boonen won the stage (i.e. did the cycling) but I came away with continued respect for Brian Holm. New team, no Cav, but still got the tactics perfect.
 

doctornige

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Degenkolb made the same mistake Boonen made in Omloop and went a bit early. Glad Boonen did well though as I had him in my fantasy team to win the stage!

Was he the dude who went ahead into the right-angled left-hander with the helicopter cam on? He properly fluffed that corner. He hadn't even straightened up before the front of the pack reeled him back in.
 

Keith Oates

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Penarth, Wales
Good to see Boonen get the win and also to see Wiggins in yellow. There is a long season ahead but overall Sky are looking good at the moment, long may it last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

smutchin

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I wasn't actually predicting how the GC contenders will be in July other than saying that the Schlecks can't ITT, Bertie's banned and Cuddles is getting on a bit:thumbsup:

Of course, but you can't rule out the other contenders - I was thinking of Tony Martin in particular with my comment. Although Wiggo looks well ahead at this early stage, Martin must be in the reckoning this year, especially now he's not riding for Cav and will have a very strong team around him. I suppose the main difference is that Sky appear to be treating Paris-Nice as a race rather than as part of their preparations for other races.

I also think you're being a bit harsh on Cuddles. He's not that old!

Andy's performance in the time trial was truly woeful, even by his standards and even taking into account that it is still early in the season. Maybe he'll aim for the Giro this year instead of the TdF?

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johnny mcgurk

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SW France
Am going to suggest Gustav Larssen and Andy Schleck operate a bodyshare. Larssen is probably one of the top 5 TTers around and yet put him on an open ride and he can't get over a speed bump. Andy's got the opposite problem.
Will also be interested to see Brunyeel's reaction to Andy's withdrawal because he's got a touch of the 'thrupenny bits'
I'm guessing he won't be too pleased.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
Of course, but you can't rule out the other contenders - I was thinking of Tony Martin in particular with my comment. Although Wiggo looks well ahead at this early stage, Martin must be in the reckoning this year, especially now he's not riding for Cav and will have a very strong team around him. I suppose the main difference is that Sky appear to be treating Paris-Nice as a race rather than as part of their preparations for other races.

I also think you're being a bit harsh on Cuddles. He's not that old!

Andy's performance in the time trial was truly woeful, even by his standards and even taking into account that it is still early in the season. Maybe he'll aim for the Giro this year instead of the TdF?

d.


I agree with most of what you say with the exception of Tony Martin. I don't believe he'll be a GT contender without changing his style and body shape.
The field of true contenders is relatively small though even if you can't rule out a left field rider coming through.
I still think that the 2 favourites are Andy Schleck and Cuddles (despite the encroaching years and senility of the wacky Aussie!). Of the rest, I can't see Valverde, Basso, Nibali, Menchov, Gesink or Sanchez being quite good enough but I may well be wrong. I have been many times.
Mollema may go well again though although I'm not sure his TT-ing is great either in a parcours that may favour them.
Just musing really!
(Apologies to any GT favourites I may have omitted!)
 

smutchin

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I agree with most of what you say with the exception of Tony Martin. I don't believe he'll be a GT contender without changing his style and body shape.

Interesting thought. Are you thinking of the way he rides up hills? You may be right.


The field of true contenders is relatively small though even if you can't rule out a left field rider coming through.

Yes, completely agree - Wiggo has got to see this year as he best chance he'll ever get at winning the TdF and winning Paris-Nice would be a strong statement of intent. It's a shame Schleck is out now, so we won't get to see them competing directly against each other in the hills (not that there are enough of the kind of hills that would suit Schleck anyway, though stage 5 would have been more interesting with Schleck present).


Of the rest, I can't see Valverde, Basso, Nibali, Menchov, Gesink or Sanchez being quite good enough but I may well be wrong. I have been many times.
Mollema may go well again though although I'm not sure his TT-ing is great either in a parcours that may favour them.

Nibali and Basso look the strongest of "the rest" to me, but I'm usually wrong (I backed Sanchez for the TdF last year and he wasn't even selected - stupid decision by his team, even though I kind of approve of the reasons). Mollema I like, but you do have to wonder about his TT-ing.



Just musing really!

It's what the internet was made for!

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iLB

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LONDON
I agree with most of what you say with the exception of Tony Martin. I don't believe he'll be a GT contender without changing his style and body shape.
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Cast your mind back to 2009, I think his second place on Ventoux shows he knows a bit about riding uphill...

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smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
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The Red Enclave
I only really caught the end of the stage so I wonder - was he working for Leipheimer? Boonen seemed to be. Might that explain why neither had anything left for the climb?

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