Panic buying...

[ColinJ]

Would the "Lancastrian Lingo" count as a foreign language?

Ready for the next trip over to Manchester.

I spent my 3 student years in Manchester/Salford in the mid-1980s and have lived and worked in Yorkshire and Lancashire since then. It is surprising how little time I have spent in those 37 years talking to people who were born and raised here! Most people I mix with are fellow offcumdens...

I worked with a couple of lads from Burnley once and could only understand them if they spoke slowly!

 

[Notafettler]

I could keep myself amused for hours just planning what I am going to do, and then there could be months, or even (hopefully not!) years actually doing those things.

I would go with the former but the latter is going to far. I will stick with planning to do something after I finish another cup of tea...or two

 

[mjr]

Most see your so called gold plating rules as nothing of the sort, just a necessary requirement for the safety of all.

If they were necessary, all shops would be doing it, not only the shootpermarkets.

If it's not gold plating, provide a link to the rule requiring hard number limits and outdoor queueing on gov.uk

 

[classic33]

If they were necessary, all shops would be doing it, not only the shootpermarkets.

If it's not gold plating, provide a link to the rule requiring hard number limits and outdoor queueing on gov.uk

Boots are doing it, WHSmiths/Post Office, SuperDrug, newsagent at the local bus station, the local chip shop.
The limit on the number in the premises having been set by the local environmental health department. The same people within the council that can order a place to close.

 

[mjr]

Boots are doing it, WHSmiths/Post Office, SuperDrug, newsagent at the local bus station, the local chip shop.
The limit on the number in the premises having been set by the local environmental health department. The same people within the council that can order a place to close.

Well, it's different here. For example, neither Boots Hardwick nor Superdrug Lynn are doing it. Superdrug had someone in the early days checking you'd read the entrance notice about keeping distance but no queueing. Boots Lynn had a queue but that's a smaller shop and emergency pharmacy so may have really filled up.

It doesn't seem to be an absolute rule to count and queue. Maybe all your shops are taking the example too far, or maybe your local council is doing it.

 

[matticus]

Boots are doing it, WHSmiths/Post Office, SuperDrug, newsagent at the local bus station, the local chip shop.
The limit on the number in the premises having been set by the local environmental health department. The same people within the council that can order a place to close.

This was news to me - but I don't doubt it, it's not like I've gone looking for it!
I haven't seen any signage up stating actual numbers, (or mentioning the Env Health people), but "clickers" are popular so they've clearly got a hard number from somewhere. I assumed head office were setting these things on some "common sense" basis.

 

[NorthernDave]

Boots are doing it, WHSmiths/Post Office, SuperDrug, newsagent at the local bus station, the local chip shop.
The limit on the number in the premises having been set by the local environmental health department. The same people within the council that can order a place to close.

Someone needs to tell Home Bargains then as at the local one you can just wander in at your leisure.

The local butcher is operating a strict one customer in the shop at a time, although it is tiny.

 

[classic33]

Whereas some of us are still working keeping essential services running and all the time it takes to shop is annoying and the extra time due to mismanagement and the Great British farked-up pastime of gold-plating rules is really irritating. And as I've said before: if I find it difficult, some of my village will not be coping.

I'm in the "High Risk" group, and if hospital treatment had carried on it'd have been the "Very High Risk" group. However I realise that me moaning that I'm unable to get what I need, every time I go shopping won't mean that what I went in for today, will be out on the shelves either later in the day or tomorrow.

I'm mobile, for now, so I'll continue to do my shopping in store, in the knowledge that those working there are doing the best they can to keep up with the demands being made of them.

One thing that is annoying is the increased visual use of council issued ID cards, by self important people within various departments to try and avoid having to queue. This behaviour will be reviewed after all this is over, not before. Two elected members seem to feel that they are essential/key workers, so shouldn't have to be like the rest of us.

 

[classic33]

Someone needs to tell Home Bargains* then as at the local one you can just wander in at your leisure.

The local butcher is operating a strict one customer in the shop at a time, although it is tiny.

*The local, to me, has had someone on the door for the last two weeks.

 

[matticus]

One thing that is annoying is the increased visual use of council issued ID cards, by self important people within various departments to try and avoid having to queue. This behaviour will be reviewed after all this is over, not before. Two elected members seem to feel that they are essential/key workers, so shouldn't have to be like the rest of us.

That sounds quite twattish. There are always going to be a few; councillors seem a pretty random bunch nationwide.

 

[bigjim]

The 2 metre rule has no scientific basis. It was conjured out of no where. The WHO suggests 1 metre, and that is indoors.

 

[vickster]

The 2 metre rule has no scientific basis. It was conjured out of no where. The WHO suggests 1 metre, and that is indoors.

The issue is no one really knows how this virus behaves in all scenarios. 2m seems to have been adopted to ensure that at least 1m is kept (probably as most people have no clue what 2m really looks like but can manage to visualise 1m)

 

[mjr]

I'm in the "High Risk" group, and if hospital treatment had carried on it'd have been the "Very High Risk" group. However I realise that me moaning that I'm unable to get what I need, every time I go shopping won't mean that what I went in for today, will be out on the shelves either later in the day or tomorrow.

No, I know, but mentioning it here means that people realise that it's not just them, that apart from a few people, we're all seeing similar, and that the supermarkets and government were lying through their hats when they claimed that "food availability has been normal for weeks". Maybe we might hold the big chains to account for this gross failure.

I'm mobile, for now, so I'll continue to do my shopping in store, in the knowledge that those working there are doing the best they can to keep up with the demands being made of them.

Whereas I'm mobile for now, so I'll continue to do my shopping out in the countryside. It's been 9 days since my last supermarket trip. I did this week's shopping at specialist stores, with unusual brands on several lines and discovering the oddities like the butcher selling jars of pasta sauce. All in all, I think I'm paying less for fresh produce (still more expensive than buying from the open market) but more for packaged items than supermarkets.

I think what will probably push me back into a supermarket eventually will be either running out of strong coffee, some cleaning product or a frozen product, or a desire for something like parsley or an aubergine that the farm shops simply don't sell.

One thing that is annoying is the increased visual use of council issued ID cards, by self important people within various departments to try and avoid having to queue. This behaviour will be reviewed after all this is over, not before. Two elected members seem to feel that they are essential/key workers, so shouldn't have to be like the rest of us.

Council officers? It's debatable. Elected members? Maybe if they're doing volunteer work for their ward, fetching shopping for the vulnerable, but definitely not just for being a councillor. Exploiting one's office like that used to be a disciplinary offence, before Cameron threw the Standards Board onto the bonfire of the quangos - I've no idea if it still is because I've not kept up since resigning.

I can't find the case I remember of a councillor being barred from office for trying the "don't you know who I am?" stunt trying to get served in a pub, but another famous case in https://www.thewestonmercury.co.uk/news/yatton-parish-councillor-porn-shame-1-325587 mentions (as an aside) "abused his position as councillor in a personal complaint about school transport" which I think is code for the same thing.

 

[NorthernDave]

I'm in the "High Risk" group, and if hospital treatment had carried on it'd have been the "Very High Risk" group. However I realise that me moaning that I'm unable to get what I need, every time I go shopping won't mean that what I went in for today, will be out on the shelves either later in the day or tomorrow.

I'm mobile, for now, so I'll continue to do my shopping in store, in the knowledge that those working there are doing the best they can to keep up with the demands being made of them.

One thing that is annoying is the increased visual use of council issued ID cards, by self important people within various departments to try and avoid having to queue. This behaviour will be reviewed after all this is over, not before. Two elected members seem to feel that they are essential/key workers, so shouldn't have to be like the rest of us.

Round here I'd question if it could it be the same councillors who used the full might of the council legal department in a very long running attempt to try and stop the local rag publishing that they hadn't paid their council tax and a summons had been issued against them?

I'm also fairly sure that there will currently be a roaring trade in "NHS" lanyards on certain online shopping sites.

 

[mjr]

(probably as most people have no clue what 2m really looks like but can manage to visualise 1m)

Really? Don't we risk literal "metric martyrs" that way? Anyway, the odious Piers copped some flak for sharing this, but it's close enough:

View: https://twitter.com/BonelloRoderick/status/1242056847688970241

Then again, those of us who cycle well are quite practised at estimating 2m: it's the minimum clearance you should give a walker and, because gov.uk is crap, also the typical width of many crap cycle paths.

The spread of distance instructions is odd. Over in BeNeLux and Germany, it's 1m50. In France, 1m. I've not checked everywhere.