OK then, what's this Southport thing?

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classic33

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Trouble is, the hatch being on the outside, the tide would tend to close it and hold it shut, and when the water goes back out again, the hatch would open outwards. Also, the figures are marked on the outside, so it would be hard to equate them with a water level inside...

But yes it is taller than what shows, and there is one remaining tie attached, with fittings for two more.
If the valve relied on water holding it shut, wouldn't it be a simple pressure release valve.
Given that it was tied into the sewage system, with the tide in, holding it shut preventing any sewage leaving the system until the tide receded, taking the sewage with it.
 
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If the valve relied on water holding it shut, wouldn't it be a simple pressure release valve.
Given that it was tied into the sewage system, with the tide in, holding it shut preventing any sewage leaving the system until the tide receded, taking the sewage with it.


Yes, I meant it wouldn't allow water in to measure the tide height as Over the Hill suggested...
 

classic33

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Yes, I meant it wouldn't allow water in to measure the tide height as Over the Hill suggested...
With the numbers on the outside, it would make it easier to work out when any release would take place. Assuming of course you knew how fast the tide was receding.
 
Trouble is, the hatch being on the outside, the tide would tend to close it and hold it shut, and when the water goes back out again, the hatch would open outwards. Also, the figures are marked on the outside, so it would be hard to equate them with a water level inside...

But yes it is taller than what shows, and there is one remaining tie attached, with fittings for two more.

My guess is that the outside markings are just for show or to show general water depth but that the actual measuring was done inside the tube. Perhaps a float in there on a bit of string with some device recording how much string is out on a graph. For tide you must need a mean sea level not the height of the biggest wave so then inside may then just have a small hole connecting it to the sea outside. The bit left was perhaps the top with the workings inside the door which would be about 20 feet up in the air. It would all have been at sea even at low tide.

Other option is it is a sewage outlet and the Tide part is a euphemism based on them discharging on the outward tide on the lines as suggested above. With this being a shut off valve.
 

asterix

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[QUOTE 2511882, member: 45"]You lot are talking s***.[/quote]


Yes and while we are on the topic of sh**t and the sea, what about 'Bovril Boats'? Anyone remember those?

Never mind a piddly little pipe, London's 'waste' was shipped out and dumped in the appropriately named 'Black Deep', in specially built craft nicknamed 'Bovril boats' for some reason. Thanks to the meddlesome EU, London had to find some other, cleaner method of disposal and it's now dried and burnt to generate electricity. Contrary to reports therefore the City of London does produce something that is useful.
 

matthat

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If ya wanna see the sea at Southport you have to goto the side at Blackpool to see it as it never comes in at Southport!! Although there are some nice beaches around you don't get the crashing waves on the rocks sound or feeling!
 
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If ya wanna see the sea at Southport you have to goto the side at Blackpool to see it as it never comes in at Southport!! Although there are some nice beaches around you don't get the crashing waves on the rocks sound or feeling!


It does come in - the time before when we were there it was going out and half way along the pier - we watched it race out along gullies in the sand. We did a nice bit of beach combing on the fresh strand line.
 
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