me and my dad have been playing with the limit screws, and put the chain on and the front mech now works, as does three gears on the back. So i assume that it was just me thinking the bike would be perfect straight off and it not being. So i am a little happier with it now and hopeful that before my hols (saturday) i will get it going good.
Cheerz for the advice all of you i realy appriciate it, realy.
Mike