No wonder we get a bad name

[glasgowcyclist]

They're arrogant pricks. I swear one of these days I'm going to see a pack of riders blocking the road, blast my horn and just barge right through them.

Are you that arrogant prick James Martin?

 

[Ajax Bay]

there are cyclists everywhere, . . . . I stopped at a set of lights only to get swamped on all sides as they turned green with no where for me to go.

Dusty
Please would you describe what behaviour the cyclists should have adopted in the circumstances you described which would uphold the good name of Oxford cyclists?
Isn't it great that there are cyclists everywhere, especially in a city like Oxford (only there myself for 3 years bitd, but cycling through and around 10 days ago)? There's a lot of traffic in the city isn't there: most of it stationary, so it was reasonably easy to filter to and through the various lights.
Presumably that the cyclists stopped at the (assumed) red light is a 'good thing' and should maintain their (collective) good name?
When the lights turned green, what would you like the cyclists to do? Wait till you had moved off or clear off quickly themselves 'racing', giving you space to be confident (of your and others' safety) when you moved off? I guess that on a motorbike you're no more stable than they are on push bikes.
Or do you think that any more than a very few cyclists should not filter through traffic to the ASL? How would this work, btw?
How much space (in cm) should cyclists allow a motorcyclist, to avoid him/her feeling 'swamped'?
How much space (in cm) should cyclists allow another cyclist, to avoid him/her feeling 'swamped'?

 

[Mugshot]

I was at some lights a little while ago when I had a motorcycle pull up on either side of me, two young lads on their way to the McDonalds about 50 yds further on. One on a 125 scrambler type and the other on a scooter. We had a chat and decided a drag race was in order (funnily enough there was a guy on a Ducati in the next lane over but we didn't bother inviting him) the scrambler was just too quick off the mark but I beat the guy on the scooter. I would imagine he had the bad name after that!

 

[User16625]

I'm local to Oxfod, and do club rides out of Oxford. I'm sitting here scratching my head, and wondering about what the message is here. Presumably everywhere means in many different areas of the road. This is difficult to get around, since once one bit of road is already occupied by a cyclist, you generally need to find another.

Then, apparently said cyclists stopped at a red light. Hhhhmmm. Well usually the complaint is that we don't.... Ho hum. And the cyclists progressed along the road when the lights were green... Did you get any descriptions, was there CCTV? They should probably all be proscuted for progressing on a green light.. Bloocy cyclists, oh, hand on, green you say...

I know what you mean though. I've been caught at a green light surrounded by cars, bastards, all around me. Must call 999 next time.

Not sure what the behaviour is that gives us a bad name. Cycling in groups? Stopping at red lights, going on green, occupying different bits of the highway? Anyway, drivers on the whole dislike most other drivers, and pedestrians.... and their passengers, not to mention tractors, horseriders, and worst of all caravaners!

With good reason tho. I dont mind people who are odd, but why do they have to be odd in such a way that it infuriates everyone else? They are essentially rolling road blocks.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Anyway, drivers on the whole dislike most other drivers, and pedestrians.... and their passengers, not to mention tractors, horseriders, and worst of all caravaners!

Don't get me started. Fiddling with the radio. Turning the heating on. Turning the heating off. And they don't pay road tax.

 

[bozmandb9]

I give up, some of you are obviously Oxford cyclists that feel it's ok to have a disregard for other traffic around you. Some peoples attitudes truly suck.

I'm confused. Still not sure how using the road, stopping at red lights, progressing when they go greed, and being a cyclist is having disregard for other traffic. Often I am 'other traffic' when I'm driving rather than cycling, and I have no problem with the dreaded infamous "Oxford cyclist" prowling round in their feral packs, on their dastardly club rides.

Not always perfect. My ride passed another small group ride a couple of weeks back, and their riding etiquette was far from perfect. But then people may say that about me. Certainly I find drivers who's driving leaves something to be desired, and it's quite possible that mine is not always regarded as perfect by all other road users.

 

[John the Monkey]

Swamping Dusty!
And you're to blame!
You give bikes - A bad name!

(& seq)

 

[r04DiE]

Swamping Dusty!
And you're to blame!
You give bikes - A bad name!

(& seq)

Post of the week?

 

[r04DiE]

... oh, and I just want to apologise to @dusty605 for insulting you. I shouldn't have done that.

 

[Ajax Bay]

... oh, and I just want to apologise to @dusty605 for insulting you. I shouldn't have done that.

@dusty605 @r04DiE has got confused. It was @Brand X he insulted. (Or his post insulting you has been deleted.) But @Brand X was just (successfully) trolling.

 

[Bollo]

This is fun. My turn....

So I'm on the starship Enterprise this evening exploring strange new worlds instead of not exploring strange new worlds for a change and there are Klingon Warbirds everywhere, obviously some ambush. No regard for light speed, the only thing they seem interested in is decloaking and firing particle beams. I stopped at the neutral zone only to get swamped on all sides as they disabled my transporters with no where for me to go. This kind of behaviour gives the rest of us a bad name and consequently civilisations on the whole dislike us. There really is no need for it in my eight eyes, if you want to get that competitive hit Vulcan and get out of hyperspace. This is in the Mutara Nebula by the way.

 

[HLaB]

They as in human beings, stop sub dividing folk into groups we are all human beings ;-)

 

[r04DiE]

@dusty605 @r04DiE has got confused. It was @Brand X he insulted. (Or his post insulting you has been deleted.) But @Brand X was just (successfully) trolling.

Oops! Thanks @Ajax Bay At least somebody is taking notice! Yes, @Brand X, I aplologise.

 

[jefmcg]

There really is no need for it in my eyes, if you want to get that competitive hit the track and get off the road. This is in Oxford by the way.

Um, where exactly?

 

[bikeman66]

So.

Stop using it to start sentences.

I "so" hate it when people do that!!