No Phil Liggett??

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John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
Other than a distinct lack of talk about the local cheeses, or the difference between square and round keeps as they relate to the architecture of chateaux (quite often, in latter years as a crucial move was being made), I've not missed P&P personally. They soundtracked some of my favourite moments, but weren't adding to the experience in the last few years, sadly.
 

G3CWI

Veteran
Location
Macclesfield
Anyone who can witter on for hours in an even remotely interesting way when there is largely nothing much happening, gets a big thumbs up from me. It must actually be incredibly difficult.
 

zacklaws

Guru
Location
Beverley
I wish both Phil and Paul was still commentating, all my club rides, group rides etc are all going terribly wrong and I'm getting shed out of the back constantly, can someone please remind me how many places back I would find myself if I was to just touch my brakes whilst in the group. Thankfully those two would remind me every day of the "Tour", and more than once a stage.
 

steverob

Guru
Location
Buckinghamshire
I didn't get to see the 1st time trial live (only the highlights show), so I'm wondering if anyone could tell me whether Ned/Dave made the same mistake that Phil Liggett made every year which really annoyed me?

As a rider approached the line or a time check he'd always say things like "looks like he'll be in the top 10" because his time was say the same as the 8th placed rider at that moment, even though he clearly had a good 500m to the line/time check still to go and so by the time he actually reached the line, he would be about 23rd. Surely after watching the first few riders cross the line, you'd have a fair idea of how far the rider had to go before stopping the clock by which TV camera he was being covered by / what corner he was taking / which advertising hoardings he was passing etc.? It's not like he had trouble commentating on a bunch sprint where he couldn't tell if Cav was either just about to cross the line or was still 300m away from it, but yet he managed to get it wrong in the TT's for the majority of riders EVERY year.

However, if this turns out to be a commentators thing that they all suffer from, then I'll shut up and accept that Phil wasn't quite so bad after all!
 

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
Location
Winch
I didn't get to see the 1st time trial live (only the highlights show), so I'm wondering if anyone could tell me whether Ned/Dave made the same mistake that Phil Liggett made every year which really annoyed me?

As a rider approached the line or a time check he'd always say things like "looks like he'll be in the top 10" because his time was say the same as the 8th placed rider at that moment, even though he clearly had a good 500m to the line/time check still to go and so by the time he actually reached the line, he would be about 23rd. Surely after watching the first few riders cross the line, you'd have a fair idea of how far the rider had to go before stopping the clock by which TV camera he was being covered by / what corner he was taking / which advertising hoardings he was passing etc.? It's not like he had trouble commentating on a bunch sprint where he couldn't tell if Cav was either just about to cross the line or was still 300m away from it, but yet he managed to get it wrong in the TT's for the majority of riders EVERY year.

However, if this turns out to be a commentators thing that they all suffer from, then I'll shut up and accept that Phil wasn't quite so bad after all!
Yes David Millar did that. No, Phil was as bad as you remember.
 

Jehannum

Veteran
I think Gary Imlach is very underated (on here at least). His dry, sardonic humour is very entertaining, and he is very perceptive. His bits to camera are very polished, fluent and understated. Ned will hopefully calm down a bit with more experience. David Millar has some great insights into how the riders will be seeing any given situation.
 

Starchivore

I don't know much about Cinco de Mayo
I think Gary Imlach is very underated (on here at least). His dry, sardonic humour is very entertaining, and he is very perceptive. His bits to camera are very polished, fluent and understated. Ned will hopefully calm down a bit with more experience. David Millar has some great insights into how the riders will be seeing any given situation.

I think Imlach is great. I really enjoyed his presenting of the highlights, and I like his dry tone- we don't want a presenter who is constantly acting and trying to hype everything up.
 
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