Nissan Leaf - what do we think?

[vickster]

I love how eveyone loves to judge, no we are not in London, and yes my daughter walks to school.

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However cars to me are much more than just transport, this was my last combustion car, a modified BMW 335i with the fantastic N54 in line 6 engine, tuned to about 400WHP (so around 450BHP at the crank), it kept a RS6 honest from 70mph to about 140mph on the Autobahn .

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I PCPed a Leaf to try out EVs after the 335i became increasingly unreliable - including dumping all of its coolant on the driveway. After test driving the Leaf, I pretty much decided that was it for me interms of combustion cars.

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If I hadn't bought the Tesla I would have ended up with this.......For me anyways EVs have 100% been the more 'green' option (and cheaper interms of running costs/upkeep).

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But your wife the car she wants if she shares your passion

 

[MrGrumpy]

Aye, and a £14k balloon payment after three years if you want to keep it.

That's bordering on irresponsible lending in my view, although it makes a total of about £29,000 so you are not paying a lot of interest.

That’s how a lot of folk buy cars now all on PCP deals are just rent. I can see why , however a car salesman said to me once if your putting a big deposit down don’t PCP just HP it, if minimal deposit it makes a bit more sense to PCP. Anyways that’s a discussion for another topic .

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Aye, and a £14k balloon payment after three years if you want to keep it.

That's bordering on irresponsible lending in my view, although it makes a total of about £29,000 so you are not paying a lot of interest.

The ones I linked to are 7 years old as an outright sale apart from the £49 to £159 a month battery lease, which is more than I spend on diesel which in the end is why I didn't buy one.

 

[lane]

Aye, and a £14k balloon payment after three years if you want to keep it.

That's bordering on irresponsible lending in my view, although it makes a total of about £29,000 so you are not paying a lot of interest.

That's the thing. I buy second hand, pay over 5 years then get 5 years with no payments to make.

 

[Pale Rider]

What about spares and repair for electric vehicles?

An acquaintance has a new Tesla which was clouted in a staff car park yesterday while on charge.

The car recorded the bump on one of its many cameras, although to be fair the other driver coughed the job to the car park attendant.

New bumper required, the next question being where from and who is going to fit it?

My acquaintance counted at least six sensors, so removal and fitting may not be straightforward.

Neither she nor I know if Tesla has any service dealers, but her's can't be the first one to need repair so hopefully the way forward will become clear.

Makes me wonder if buying an electric car from a traditional ICE maker might be a wise move.

At least you would have a local dealer to go to, even if they are not very familiar with the electron powered cars.

 

[midlife]

slightly off topic but had to change the car at the beginning of next month.

Looked at electric vehicles but in the end plumped for a 2014 Ford Ka, £3500. 45,000 miles with one owner in Cockermouth and full service history. Cheap as chips to run and insure. Maybe paid over the odds but the figures add up better than buying electric.

 

[Oldhippy]

INTERGRATED FUNCTIONAL FOR ALL FAIRLY PRICED WELL RUN PUBLIC TRANSPORT

 

[Drago]

Mrs D was telling me that one of the teachers at school has an early Tesla model S, 2016 IIRC. Used car, no warrantly left. Theres something wrong with it, and they indeed struggled to to find anyone qualifed to wield the hammers.

When they did eventually find someone it transpires that something electronic to do with the motor (this came via Mrs D, who had the mechanical sympathy and knowledge of a tioper truck driver, sp details are scant) is at fault, and it would cost £8000 to fix, but the item is not available to buy. I do not know how, or even if, this was resolved (I'll ask her when she gets home).

Thats about all I know, but was one of the reasons Mrs Has ordered a Polestar rather than a Tesla - any Level 1 Volvo dealer can work on it, and parts supply is assured via the same source.

 

[gzoom]

What about spares and repair for electric vehicles?

An acquaintance has a new Tesla which was clouted in a staff car park yesterday while on charge.

The car recorded the bump on one of its many cameras, although to be fair the other driver coughed the job to the car park attendant.

New bumper required, the next question being where from and who is going to fit it?

Quite alot of garages are now getting 'EV certified' I found one local to me (2 miles from my house) whom have just done a service on our Tesla with no issues (first service in 4 years and 50K). They also told me they are more than happy to do repair and order parts directly from Tesla.

https://www.hevra.org.uk/

EVs are actually very easy to work on, there is no engine in the way of suspension parts etc. I've taken apart the front of our X before, it takes about 5 minutes to get to this level of stripping, you can access the motor, radiator already. Try doing that on a combustion car!!

 

[gzoom]

Mrs D was telling me that one of the teachers at school has an early Tesla model S, 2016 IIRC. Used car, no warrantly left. Theres something wrong with it, and they indeed struggled to to find anyone qualifed to wield the hammers.

When they did eventually find someone it transpires that something electronic to do with the motor (this came via Mrs D, who had the mechanical sympathy and knowledge of a tioper truck driver, sp details are scant) is at fault and it would cost £8000 to fix, but the item is not available to buy. I do not know how, or even if, this was resolved.

Are you talking BS again about EVs....What are you trying to wield to a Tesla???

The chassis of the car is aluminium so ofcourse its hard to weld.

As for a problem with the motor EVERY SINGLE Tesla Model S sold in the UK is still under the original 8 year battery + motor warranty with unlimited miles - The earliest Model S sold in the UK was in mid 2014. So if its a problem with the motor why haven't they just asked Tesla to replace for FREE under warranty???

I get you like to bash EVs for no reason, but as I have stated in the past, please atleast get your facts right before spouting nonsense!!

 

[Scottish Scrutineer]

What about spares and repair for electric vehicles?

An acquaintance has a new Tesla which was clouted in a staff car park yesterday while on charge.
The car recorded the bump on one of its many cameras, although to be fair the other driver coughed the job to the car park attendant.
New bumper required, the next question being where from and who is going to fit it?
My acquaintance counted at least six sensors, so removal and fitting may not be straightforward.
Neither she nor I know if Tesla has any service dealers, but her's can't be the first one to need repair so hopefully the way forward will become clear.
Makes me wonder if buying an electric car from a traditional ICE maker might be a wise move.
At least you would have a local dealer to go to, even if they are not very familiar with the electron powered cars.

Tesla have a number of Service Centres, the same as for any "conventional" ICE car, its just that the Tesla Centres tend not to be big glass and polished showrooms in prime locations, but are located in Industrial areas.
Many modern cars are festooned with sensors and cameras which need specialist diagnostics to check them and reset/recalibrate them after a shunt, even a minor car park shunt. Its not only Teslas that have lane assist, steering assist, self parking, adaptive cruise control etc. Even modest family car manufacturers like Nissan/Renault, Peugeot/Citroen, Kia/Hyundai etc have a huge number of sensors and electornis/computing stems in their cars. If you recall the reputation that French cars had for dodgy electrics, would you ever consider buying an EV built by one of them? Even FIAT are producing EVs 🙄
In the case of your acquaintance, they should just leave things to the insurers to sort out the repairs.

 

[Drago]

They currently have 7 in London, 13 for the rest of the British Isles.

There are more authorised Lamborghini service agents than Tesla service centres.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

slightly off topic but had to change the car at the beginning of next month.

Looked at electric vehicles but in the end plumped for a 2014 Ford Ka, £3500. 45,000 miles with one owner in Cockermouth and full service history. Cheap as chips to run and insure. Maybe paid over the odds but the figures add up better than buying electric.

2nd hand car prices are a bit mad atm. A very good condition 2009 65k Fiesta cost me £3200 a few weeks back, I bought my last 10yr old one for £500

 

[cougie uk]

2nd hand car prices are a bit mad atm. A very good condition 2009 65k Fiesta cost me £3200 a few weeks back, I bought my last 10yr old one for £500

When did you buy the £500 one ?

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

When did you buy the £500 one ?

End 2010 so the world was slightly different