Next Generation Groupset ??- 12 speed wireless

[Mr Haematocrit]

a wireless 12-speed electronic road group set

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/tiso-launches-wireless-12-speed-electronic-road-group-35956/

Think that's pretty cool myself dumping the wiring all together?

 

[Booyaa]

In theory it's a cracking idea I would be a bit concerned that the signal was lost just when you needed it most, much like the good days of dial up internet when the picture of a naked model of your choice was almost downloaded and the connection died.

I also don't fancy the idea of it being AAA battery powered. Still, it looks like a good start!

 

[cyberknight]

In theory it's a cracking idea I would be a bit concerned that the signal was lost just when you needed it most, much like the good days of dial up internet when the picture of a naked model of your choice was almost downloaded and the connection died.

I also don't fancy the idea of it being AAA battery powered. Still, it looks like a good start!

or interferance , or hacking ...imagines someone standing at the side of the TDF scrambling the signal, sure beats tacks

 

[Booyaa]

or interferance , or hacking ...imagines someone standing at the side of the TDF scrambling the signal, sure beats tacks

yep, thought that would be quite easy to do in this day and age where you could change a riders gear going up hill to the biggest gear. I saw an episode of Homeland where they stopped a guys pacemaker using the internet so if that is possible it must be easy to change someones gears.....

 

[Mr Haematocrit]

Encrypted wireless signal perhaps?
I'm equally not sure I need 12 gears

 

[cyberknight]

Encrypted wireless signal perhaps?
I'm equally not sure I need 12 gears

I was only joking
I think its an arms race for the most gears, heck once they make a micro hub drive and make triples popular along with a 12 speed block the overlap in gears could be mind boggling.....

 

[Kookas]

A wireless variable would be high tech. Automatic bikes, anybody?

As for signal jamming or hacking, it'll probably use a very short range signal like BT. It'd hopefully be such a pain to hack, you might as well just hire a hitman if you really want a racer out that bad.

 

[Hacienda71]

Encrypted wireless signal perhaps?
I'm equally not sure I need 12 gears

12 gears does seems a little bit extreme, mind you I remember getting my first bike with a 6 speed freewheel in the eighties and thinking wow.

 

[fossyant]

I remember getting Dura Ace 8 speed as it came out. Why do you need 8, 6 or 7 are fine. All the club mates were doing it

 

[aces_up1504]

Its quite spooky, I was thinking last week when trying to get my gears working on the bashed old MTB i dug out, the cable is very old hat technology wise and was suprised that electronic gearing was not more common.

Is a case if it aint broken no need to fix it or that electronic wired or wireless can offer no advantage?

 

[Drago]

Is a well designed and routed wire really that much of an embuggerance?

 

[Teuchter]

Is a well designed and routed wire really that much of an embuggerance?

What's the point in shaving your legs and then still having all that drag inducing cabling all over the bike? That AAA battery is going to weigh some though... can you get them with carbon fibre casing?

(IMHO 6 speeds is more than enough)

 

[Drago]

True, I was thinking more incorporate such cables into the weave of a carbon frame, of threaded through the outer sheath of a control cable. It doesn't take much imagination to keep cables completely concealed and maintain the reassurance and integrity of a physical link. It's just a question of choosing to design it (they may already have done, I don't keep terribly current with the field of e- shifting )

 

[Rob3rt]

That groupset look's awful!

Its quite spooky, I was thinking last week when trying to get my gears working on the bashed old MTB i dug out, the cable is very old hat technology wise and was suprised that electronic gearing was not more common.

Is a case if it aint broken no need to fix it or that electronic wired or wireless can offer no advantage?

Electronic shifting is common, Google Shimano Di2 and Campagnolo EPS.

What's the point in shaving your legs and then still having all that drag inducing cabling all over the bike? That AAA battery is going to weigh some though... can you get them with carbon fibre casing?

(IMHO 6 speeds is more than enough)

Carefully routed cables are near invisible to the wind, many TT machines have cabling that does not add at all to the frontal area of the bike. Also, you assume people shave their legs for the aerodynamic benefit?

 

[aces_up1504]

That groupset look's awful!



Electronic shifting is common, Google Shimano Di2 and Campagnolo EPS.


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Yeah did find them, but i would not exactly say they on common on bikes given the expense of them. If electronic shifting became popular, price would obviously come down. You only have to look a TVs to give an idea of how as technology being popular forces price down. 5-6 years ago you were lucky to get a LCD TV around 40 inches for less than £600, now even the biggest premium brands are knocking out LED Tvs at £300.

So either the technology is very new to cycling hence why at high end price wise, or it does not provide any benifits over cable and therefore lack of demand keeps price high.