Newbie doing a sponsered cycle 500 miles

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Machine-gun-mike

Machine-gun-mike

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Loch Lomond
Yea thanks man, I had a look at them but forgot that it was my arse that was lined with diamonds!!!:biggrin: Soooooooo expensive, kind of out my price range, Garmin seem to be the best though, Everyone i know has told me to check out thier site, Time to send out begging letters i think,;)
Thanks though man, Ill try foning them up to get a charity discount???
 

RedBike

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You can pick up a Garmin Etrex for under £50 without too much problem off ebay.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=garmin+etrex+&_cqr=true&_nkwusc=garmin+etex&_rdc=1

If you buy a model with built in maps it's worth remembering that the topo maps are a fortune.

Your best bet for a cheap(ish) electronic solution is to buy a cheap Etrex garmin and or a smart phone that will take some GPS software.

By far the most cheapest and most reliable solution is still a traditional map holder and a road map. For long distance routes / tours you'd be well advised to take a map as well as a GPS device anyway.
Sat-navs (even for the car) are not always the most reliable things. Mine took me across a ferry last weekend as it thought that was the quickest way (It wasn't).
 
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Machine-gun-mike

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Loch Lomond
Ha Ha Ha yea been left in stupid places by sat navs quite often, but i have no idea of any roadssouth of dumfries so think its gonna be a vital tool, ill have a look at that one, Thanks very much man.;)
As always i will certainly have a map at all times
 

bennytheegg

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Brighton
Hey Machine-Gun-Mike. I'm a newbie too.

Recently given up work and I'm cycling to Munich next month which will be my first tour. looked into Sat-navs, and they're very expensive. For some of them, you even have to pay extra (sometimes up to £100) for software. Ridiculous.

In my opinion, if touring/hiking/"geocaching" (something i learnt about whilst researching) is something you will regularly be doing, maybe it'd be worth it.

Personally, I am taking a map and a compass. I think it'll be more fun and will add to the experience.

I bought one of these form evans:

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/fuji/newest-20-2009-road-bike-ec018089

Got a rack to go on the back (I'm travelling light)

Must say, the service and help I received was excellent. Also, they gave me 10% off all the accessories I bought, which saved me a fair bit. Not sure it's their policy, but worth asking.

Cycle Chat has given me soooooo many great tips. look through the touring section, there's a great thread called "top touring tips" that you'll find helpfull.

Although I can't actually talk from experience (!) hopefully you might find some of this helpful.

Good luck ;)
 
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Machine-gun-mike

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Loch Lomond
Hi bennytheegg:hello:, Nice one mate, Thanks very much mate that was really helpful,Think its just gonna be a necessary evil ;)! Yea i found this site absolutely brilliant so far, Loads to read up on, Nice people too, Nice lookin bike mate, that will do the job nicely, Compass and pen would be more fun but im paranoid caus' there is going to be 150 people waiting at the finish for me, Great!!! Well done on your cycle man, Blows mine oot the water,Ha Ha, How long you bin training for mate? How many miles you gonna be doing if you stick to your route?
 

RedBike

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Sadly the sat navs i've linked you to don't have 'auto-routing' (Some do, but they wont be £50!).

You need to plot your route in advance on a computer
http://bikeroutetoaster.com/
Download it to the GPS the night before then follow the route you've pre-programmed in.

On most lower end bike sat navs you just get an arrow that points the direction to the next 'marker/point' on your route and the map (if there is one) just shows your route (no other roads) and an arrowing showing where you are.

If you go off the route for whatever reason (miss a turn) they're not the best of help getting you back on route. All you can do is see where you are in relation to the route you should be on. They don't tell you which road(s) actually go in the right direction.
 

jimboalee

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Solihull
skwerl said:
seems a bit daft to have put a newbie on a tarmac pro. But then I s'pose Spesh were more interested in the advertising than supplying kit that's best suited for the job

Please explain.

Why was it daft to lend Adrian a Spesh Tarmac Pro?
You say this as if Adrian was not entitled to ride such a bike.
If you happened to see me on my SWorks, would you tell all your friends you saw a fat old geezer riding a bike he shouldn't be?

Why wasn't the Tarmac Pro best suited kit for the job?
They were fully supported and didn't need to carry luggage.
I was under the impression the lighter the bike, the easier it is to climb up hills. Why make their task any more difficult than it was?

How often did you see 'Specialized' on the telly screen?

I might talk some bollocks from time to time, but this takes the biscuit.
 
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Machine-gun-mike

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Loch Lomond
Thanks RedBike, I wasnt entirely sure how those sat navs did work, Thanks for explaining that one, Iv asked for the O.S maps from my leaving point all they way through the regions i will be passing, Very expensive as well, bout 17 maps!!!!:thumbsup: But the O.S guys were very helpfull, Ill keep looking for sat navs but i have a paper back up. Again many thanks for all the ideas guys keep em comin,
 

RedBike

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You can't really trump the O/S maps but again they are a little overkill. You'll be forever swapping maps and turning the page over. They also have a lot of detail on that (although helpful) strickly speaking isn't needed if you're on the road all the way down the country.

I've found the easiest way is to buy a big road map, rip out the pages I want so they fit in a handlebar holder and mark my route on them using a high-lighter.

You need to research your route very carefully. Try having a look at the Sustrans website to see if any of the national cycle paths run in the right sort of direction. You'll probably be better off going a few miles out of your way and following these routes than going direct down an 'A' road.
 

skwerl

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London
jimboalee said:
Please explain.

Why was it daft to lend Adrian a Spesh Tarmac Pro?
You say this as if Adrian was not entitled to ride such a bike.
If you happened to see me on my SWorks, would you tell all your friends you saw a fat old geezer riding a bike he shouldn't be?

Why wasn't the Tarmac Pro best suited kit for the job?
They were fully supported and didn't need to carry luggage.
I was under the impression the lighter the bike, the easier it is to climb up hills. Why make their task any more difficult than it was?

How often did you see 'Specialized' on the telly screen?

I might talk some bollocks from time to time, but this takes the biscuit.

because I'd say it takes quite a fit, supple rider to ride a decent distance on a bike of that geometry without suffering a fair bit. Weak core muscles mean holding position, even on the tops, may well result in numb hands, etc. Neck not used to holding that position for extended periods. I'd have thought that a lightweight C2C (for example the excellent Roubaix) or touring bike would be easier and perform just as well for the ride they were doing.

please tell me where I suggest he wasn't 'entitled' to ride such a bike or why I would think you ride a bike you shouldn't. Oh, wait. You do mention a penchant for talking bollocks so I'll let you off with those aspersions
 

Banjo

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South Wales
Machine-gun-mike said:
Hi everyone first post here, To fill you in i am doing a sponsered cycle from Loch Lomond up in the west coast of scotland to London Kew gardens for a charity called perrenial, Hoping to set of in the last week of june 2010, I am a downhill mountain biker and its a modified claudbutler stone river i own, Currently researching what road bike to use to train on and also use for the cycle, I have a budget of £500 for the bike without any accesories, What would you suggest? Also what is the best sat nav for bycicles?

Cant suggest anything as I am on ly a beginner but good luck thats a big challenge to set yourself. do it. enjoy it and get a lifetimes worth of pride.
 

jimboalee

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Solihull
skwerl said:
because I'd say it takes quite a fit, supple rider to ride a decent distance on a bike of that geometry without suffering a fair bit. Weak core muscles mean holding position, even on the tops, may well result in numb hands, etc. Neck not used to holding that position for extended periods. I'd have thought that a lightweight C2C (for example the excellent Roubaix) or touring bike would be easier and perform just as well for the ride they were doing.

please tell me where I suggest he wasn't 'entitled' to ride such a bike or why I would think you ride a bike you shouldn't. Oh, wait. You do mention a penchant for talking bollocks so I'll let you off with those aspersions

As you saw 'Live on television', Adrian, Alan and the others arrived at BBC's studios on time ( within a couple of minutes of there ETA for 'The One show' that evening ).

What was not told on telly was the amount of training ALL the riders did to prepare for this ride.
A conversation with Adrian at Aylesbury revealed he had been 'in charge' of the bike since before the previous Christmas. The event was on 13th and 14th March 2008.

You have to remember Adrian's job. Sitting infront of a camera for half an hour each evening and then again for some footy programme. He's reading off an autocue so there's not really much brainpower involved.
The mornings and afternoons of every day were spent training - with glad permission from his employers - something most full-time workers rarely get opportunity to do.
One member of the crew was a PT instructor, and I chatted to this guy about PT instruction because I am one too.
All the relevant exercises were included in the training programme.

The final prep was a ride along the worst part of the trip - over the Pennines and up onto the West Mids plateau.

My only gripe about the whole thing was the portioning of riding time vs resting time. As I have said, they cooled down too much at the stops.
There was a reason for this however, it was to allow the local press to get photos and members of the public to throw money at their charity.

The impression that was portrayed on the telly was that Adrian was an absolute beginner. Wrong. He'd been in some serious prep for this event - who wouldn't when it is going to be on live TV?

Specialized GB supplied the bikes. Their representatives chose the model and fitted them to each rider.
I, for one, didn't argue with their decision.

Anyway, along the whole ride, where were YOU. You could have ridden out to Aylesbury and been with us. But you weren't there, so haven't got the memories of all the chat that took place.
YOU are in the same camp as the millions of One Show veiwers who were only told part of the story.

PS I rode 140 miles from LE to Somerset, and the another 130 miles from Somerset to Solihull ( the last 30 with a broken arm ) on my SWorks.
I must be a so fit and supple with amazingly strong abdominals, Erector spinae, trapezius and sternocleidomastoids.
 
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