DaveReading
Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
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- Reading, obvs
What interpretation does "Do not overtake just before you turn left" (sic) require ?
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What interpretation does "Do not overtake just before you turn left" (sic) require ?
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
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- Scotland
I've never heard it interpreted as referring to anything other than another vehicle. The example photo shows a cyclist.
(Incidentally, why the 'sic' after that quote? There's nothing wrong with it.)
DaveReading
Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
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- Reading, obvs
"Sic" ["thus", in Latin] simply means "quoted verbatim" (from the HC, in this case).
It doesn't necessarily imply that there is anything wrong, although it's often used in such circumstances.
newts
Veteran
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- Isca Dumnoniorum
I'd still not attempt to cross if a nearby vehicle was indicating a turn, not sure if semantics on the highway code would heal a broken leg or worse. I wouldn't trust that the driver knows the h/way code.
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Cycleops
Legendary Member
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- Accra, Ghana
If it has to go before parliament doesn't that mean it's incorporated in law?
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Cycleops
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presta
Guru
This is the problem with any right of way: if you're the only one who's going to get hurt, are you going to trust the nut holding the steering wheel to respect it. This is particulary relevant when you're on a cycle path, and confronted with the waste of effort caused by stopping to give way at every side road. The argument from the cycle path lobby is that they should be laid out so as to give cyclists priority, but if you're not willing to gamble your life on the motorists giving way you're no better off.
Cycle paths turn every junction into a game of chicken.
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
- Location
- Lancaster... the little city.
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
- Location
- Lancaster... the little city.
no but, the same goes for a zebra crossing... if they don't look like they're going to stop, only a fool would start to cross.
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
Hmm. Sort of.
It is amended by Statutory Instrument, so called Secondary Legislation.
So yes, it is part of the legislation, but in this case, it is statutory guidance, rather than in itself being law which must be obeyed. It references laws which must be obeyed (whenever it says MUST or MUST NOT), and gives guidance on what is best practice outside of what the actual laws require.
In this amendment, none of the laws it references are changing, it is only the guidance that is changing.
Specialeyes
Guru
- Location
- Essex
I hope that by the time the change comes into force they will have spelled kerb correctly... 
Alex321
Guru
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- South Wales
The online edition is kept up to date, but still doesn't have these changes, as they will not be current until 29th of January 2022.-
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
A cyclist is a vehicle.
matticus
Guru
But isn't that the same if you're riding past a side-turning? You know you have right-of-way, but you still keep a wary eye on vehicles* who might forget the rules.
That doesn't make it a bad rule!
(Speaking for self, after my SMIDSY incident I am uber-cautious of moving vehicles approaching from the left; but I'm grateful the rules say they should stop, and I can report that is almost always the case. After all, without those rules, I doubt I'd have got the 4-figure compensation that followed my "incident".)
*Yes I know ...
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
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- Scotland
Yes, that was my point.
