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[oldfatfool]

The whole Skoda/VW thing really favours going for the VW.

The Skoda value 3 years on was 41% and the VW 47% so the Skoda will lose perhaps £1500 more in 3 years.

20K skoda @ 41% retained= £8,200 = cost of £11,800 over 3 years
22.5k VW @47% retained = £10,575 = cost of £11,925 over 3 years

And my guess is you would pay a lot more than £2.5k to spec up an equivalent vw let alone an Audi

 

[Davidc]

The whole Skoda/VW thing really favours going for the VW.

Last time I looked at it the VW equivalent was only about £2,500 more to buy. The Skoda value 3 years on was 41% and the VW 47% so the Skoda will lose perhaps £1500 more in 3 years. They are cheaper but then get even cheaper and so you lose out more.

A car costs what it falls in value by not what you buy it for.

But then Mr H may want to look like a minicab driver! You could just paint 444 444 on the side and sit in the back and pretend you are a fare

Depends how long you plan on keeping it for a start.

I have a Citroen C5. Bought new it has now done a faultless 8 years and 85,000 miles. I expect to keep it until it is 20 years old or 250,000 miles. At that time it will be valueless. So would be any other normal car.

The Skoda will be just as reliable and durable as the VW Passat, which is much the same car but fitted with more expensive badges. Which will have the more value in 2034 or with 250,000 miles on the clock?

To my way of thinking - The whole Skoda/VW thing really favours going for the Skoda.

 

[Over The Hill]

Only if you regard the worth of a car in terms of what you sell it for. If you actually use it, properly, efficiently, until it dies, rather than upgrade on a whim, the value is in the longevity, reliability and fitfulness for purpose.

I find NT's car absolutely fine - mostly as a passenger. Comfortable, quiet enough, gets us about, swallows up bikes and stuff in the back.

Very true! I currently drive a 13 year old car that is far from prestige brand (a Peugeot). My point was with a buyer of a new car and so the loss in value should be considered. I drive Mrs OTH mad as I hold on to things and keep using the same ones. I have T shirts I have worn for 10 years. Kids don't understand why I don't upgrade my phone when offered one. Most of what I get is old or recycled in some way. So I am with you on that.

 

[Lee_M]

Mrs Houthakker here.....omg mr has decided to get a new Skoda Octavia....what on earth is he thinking? Can't get him to change his mind..... Well I won't be going in it.....

tour de france official support vehicle.

may not be exciting but tough as a tough thing

 

[byegad]

I've heard VERY good things about the Skoda.

 

[Saluki]

I would have an Octavia in a heartbeat. Nice, comfy, reliable as the day is long and I can get all the dogs in and my shopping. Nice flat boot area and folding seats for fitting bikes in. What's not to like.
I rather fancy a Roomster myself.

 

[Over The Hill]

Depends how long you plan on keeping it for a start.

I have a Citroen C5. Bought new it has now done a faultless 8 years and 85,000 miles. I expect to keep it until it is 20 years old or 250,000 miles. At that time it will be valueless. So would be any other normal car.

The Skoda will be just as reliable and durable as the VW Passat, which is much the same car but fitted with more expensive badges. Which will have the more value in 2034 or with 250,000 miles on the clock?

To my way of thinking - The whole Skoda/VW thing really favours going for the Skoda.

Keep it 20 years (life of car) and yes the cost is what you paid for it only.
That is very rare and mostly people stick with an age of cars and rarely keep a new car over three years. In that case the resale value needs to be considered and as oldfatfool shows it evens out the cost of the two over three years. You are presenting a different scenario so I don't disagree with you if car is kept for a long time but generally they are not.

 

[oldfatfool]

Keep it 20 years (life of car) and yes the cost is what you paid for it only.
That is very rare and mostly people stick with an age of cars and rarely keep a new car over three years. In that case the resale value needs to be considered and as oldfatfool shows it evens out the cost of the two over three years. You are presenting a different scenario so I don't disagree with you if car is kept for a long time but generally they are not.

Two things that have to be bore in mind, depreciation, a £100k Ferrari might retain 80% over the same three years, but that will still lose you more money over three years than even a £30k skoda.
Secondly premium marques charge premium prices for parts and servicing, VW are dearer than Skoda in most things yet if I look under the bonnet of my new Octy many engine and ancillary parts are stamped VW/Audi, whilst other parts under the VW bonnet will be stamped Skoda. Makes a complete mockery really.

 

[Brandane]

Tens of thousands of taxi drivers can't be wrong. Reliable, economical, comfortable, durable. Made with VW/Audi parts.

 

[GrasB]

Mrs Houthakker here.....omg mr has decided to get a new Skoda Octavia....what on earth is he thinking? Can't get him to change his mind..... Well I won't be going in it.....

That it's a big car which can lap up the miles in comfort but engine for engine is more fuel efficient & faster than most super minis out there?

I had the pleasure of driving a 1.2TSI Octavia Estate...As a passenger & driver it's well put together, nothing felt tacky, nothing rattled, everything was just right. Loads of space etc. it was nice & airy, thanks in part to its HUGE sunroof!

Oh, forget that it's a 1.2l engine in a big car... VAG obviously performed some mechanical hynotsim on the engine & convinced a 1.2 petrol engine that it's really a 1.6-1.8 diesel! It pulls like a train from 1500rpm to the red line, no fuss, no hassle just sits there being all quiet, for the most part, & willing. Sure it got a little harsh & vocal when really pushed to it's limits but that's not exactly unexpected & when do you really ask for full beans?

My only real issue with the car was that it has typical modern brakes, that is p*** poor imo, sure they're sharp at first but a little switch like with no feel & completely lack any conviction or confidence in their own ability. I'm used to brakes which reward input with firm conviction that they WILL stop the car, a quality I've not found in any normal car released in the last 10 years

 

[TheDoctor]

Skoda, Seat, VW and Audi all raid the same goody bag for their cars. The Octavia, IIRC, is based on VW Golf running gear, as are Golfs (obviously), Beetles, Bora, Eos, the Seat Leon, Audi A3 and TT...
It's just a car. There aren't any really bad ones out there any more.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

We have an '11' plate Octavia Tdi estate, & it's the best (normal) car we've had.

Should have had one a few years ago, instead of the rubbishy C-Max we had.

£30 VED
£250 insurance, for 4 drivers

Goes like a train, even though it's only the 1.6Tdi


Next stop will be a Superb estate


We used to have a Fabian estate, a '03' plate (1.4Mpi) bought new
Owned for 4 years, best small car I'd driven (till the present model) far better than the equivilant Polo

 

[GrasB]

The engines are common across all brands but VAG have a new modular chassis system that lets them get very creative with their wheelbases. The new Golf & Octavia have different wheel base, 5cm difference, this means you get a marginally smaller boot in the Octavia with the rear seats up but more passenger space. I think the last gen Octavia was based on the Audi A4/Seat Exeo which was a car that didn't have a VW equivalent. The Passat being the same size as the Skoda Superb/Audi A6.

 

[Stephen brown]

I have seen this argument too many times, too many badge snobs

+1 for Skoda,

 

[Doseone]

A mate at work has an Octavia estate. We rip the pi$$ mercilessly, but actually it's a fantastic car. Safe, reliable, economical, low running costs great to ride in. I'd have one in a heartbeat.