'New' Car Day!

[Badger_Boom]

You could get the D3 and 4 with the Jag petrol V8. Strangely, few bothered, likely because of running costs. I think id3 just go buy an Overfinch rather than mess about with engine swaps.

It always seems a bit odd to me that people will spend 60 grand on a 2.5 tonne SUV, and then worry about the cost of fuel, which is almost inconsequential compared to that which they already spent.

My experience is that it's buyers of used ones that worry about this. Those who can afford a new one either don't care, or someone else/the business is paying. I always suppress a smile when I read another 'how do I reduce my MPG?' thead. Don't get me wrong - I do care how much fuel uses, but I didn't buy it for it's economy.

 

[Scottish Scrutineer]

You could get the D3 and 4 with the Jag petrol V8. Strangely, few bothered, likely because of running costs. I think id3 just go buy an Overfinch rather than mess about with engine swaps.

It always seems a bit odd to me that people will spend 60 grand on a 2.5 tonne SUV, and then worry about the cost of fuel, which is almost inconsequential compared to that which they already spent.

We had various Discovery models from early 90's until last year, bought new and run for up to 8 years. However, the last two were getting too expensive to purchase, run and maintain. Whilst we enjoyed the cars, and until recently used them for a variety of uses, including towing, off road and long distances. The D4 was nicer than the D3, especially the auto'box, but the fuel consumption (and tax) was really not justifiable. They were no longer user servicable, and required dealer level diagnostics. Also concerns about the durability of the engines.
Replaced the Discovery with a MINI Clubman Cooper S after deciding that none of the current Land Rover offerings appealed. Fuel consumption/emissions were a consideration; there was no real need for us to buy something the struggled to get mid-30's mpg, nor pay £40-50k for a Defender.

 

[Ridgeway]

Just had a tow bracket fitted to the wives Caddy, looks very similar if not the same as yours with swivel out electrics, very neat and happy with it. The one i had on the Golf sort of swung in and out of position (electrics an all) but this one detaches and the electrics swivel up/down.

Now searching for a bike rack

Love the Kodiaq but like even more the Kamiq, super nice shape and size

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

IF we'd not got a BWSOW, I'd have happily looked at the Enyaq, particularly, as SWMBOs (Toyota) C-HR has been returned (end of PCP)

https://www.skoda.co.uk/electric-hybrid-cars/enyaq-iv

And........... if this stays the same, when it reaches production
https://www.skoda.co.uk/electric-hybrid-cars/vision-iv


EDIT @ 09:16, Wed 30th

I'll hazard a guess that it'll be PoleStar sized, not fugly BumW X6 sized?

 

[Ridgeway]

Saw my first Enyaq last Friday, wasn't sure what it was at first but the grille gave it away, looked very nice.

 

[Pale Rider]

another 'how do I reduce my MPG?' thead

Driving flat out in first gear should do it.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

We covered roughly 750 miles last week, from leaving home, to returning
(Northumberland)

It coped well with 5 of us, & all the luggage (& some food)
The average MPG was about 54-55
Including a fair few back roads, town use
The invariable queues/slow moving traffic around Newcastle
Then, on the return journey, almost 5 miles of stop-start on the A1, just north of the A59 junction

There was a couple of little niggles, primarily due to settings,
Mainly with automatic functions, eg;
- rear wiper was enabled to mirror the automatic setting for the front
- 'rear seat voice amplification' (it uses bluetooth mike & plays through rear speakers - probably a function of the 7seater, to shout at kids?)

 

[gbb]

You could get the D3 and 4 with the Jag petrol V8. Strangely, few bothered, likely because of running costs. I think id3 just go buy an Overfinch rather than mess about with engine swaps.

It always seems a bit odd to me that people will spend 60 grand on a 2.5 tonne SUV, and then worry about the cost of fuel, which is almost inconsequential compared to that which they already spent.

My experience is that it's buyers of used ones that worry about this. Those who can afford a new one either don't care, or someone else/the business is paying. I always suppress a smile when I read another 'how do I reduce my MPG?' thead. Don't get me wrong - I do care how much fuel uses, but I didn't buy it for it's economy.

I clearly remember a colleague in the mid 2000s who brought a top spec Discovery with virtually delivery mileage on it, saved a fortune, maybe £20k saving on an almost new 'car'
He sold ot within a year, the running costs surprised him, hed also looked at dealership servicing costs, they were eye watering apparently.
Which goes to show...some people simply dont do the homework.

 

[Drago]

We had various Discovery models from early 90's until last year, bought new and run for up to 8 years. However, the last two were getting too expensive to purchase, run and maintain. Whilst we enjoyed the cars, and until recently used them for a variety of uses, including towing, off road and long distances. The D4 was nicer than the D3, especially the auto'box, but the fuel consumption (and tax) was really not justifiable. They were no longer user servicable, and required dealer level diagnostics. Also concerns about the durability of the engines.
Replaced the Discovery with a MINI Clubman Cooper S after deciding that none of the current Land Rover offerings appealed. Fuel consumption/emissions were a consideration; there was no real need for us to buy something the struggled to get mid-30's mpg, nor pay £40-50k for a Defender.

All fair enough indeed.

Yoy mention diagnostics. I bought the iCarsoft V2.0 Swedish for the Volvo. Reads and resets all codes, engine, tranmission, chassis, canbus, stability controls, steering, climate, even the inbuilt GSM phone, the works. Configures and/or calibrates new compontents. Best £136 I spent, and has paid for itself several times over this year alone.

If youre ever looking at owning a car over the long term then such a box of tricks is invaluable,

 

[Badger_Boom]

I clearly remember a colleague in the mid 2000s who brought a top spec Discovery with virtually delivery mileage on it, saved a fortune, maybe £20k saving on an almost new 'car'
He sold ot within a year, the running costs surprised him, hed also looked at dealership servicing costs, they were eye watering apparently.
Which goes to show...some people simply dont do the homework.

Some say that dealership servicing costs are best avoided by not using dealers. There are plenty of reputable independent specialists who can maintain or repair Land Rovers to the manufacturers warranty specification. They are usually cheaper, and actually do a whole job for the money which is a bonus.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

I clearly remember a colleague in the mid 2000s who brought a top spec Discovery with virtually delivery mileage on it, saved a fortune, maybe £20k saving on an almost new 'car'
He sold ot within a year, the running costs surprised him, hed also looked at dealership servicing costs, they were eye watering apparently.
Which goes to show...some people simply dont do the homework.

Some say that dealership servicing costs are best avoided by not using dealers. There are plenty of reputable independent specialists who can maintain or repair Land Rovers to the manufacturers warranty specification. They are usually cheaper, and actually do a whole job for the money which is a bonus.

D3 & D4 are (or were) renown for punishing servicing/repair costs

Eg; on the D3, the replacement of the (separate) 'timing belt' for the fuel-pump, on the 2.7 TDV6, 'officially' was a body-off job
Still, on the plus side, if it snapped the engine just stopped, & valves did not interface with pistons

Allegedly, it could be changed in-situ, with small hands & a mirror to see the timing marks

Tyre wear was another chronic problem

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Thursday 8th

Sand-driving

Well, not quite!
We just stopped for a brew, after leaving the main visitors car-park



https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4423620

Yes, it does still get wet at the that point; https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4128006

 

[Scottish Scrutineer]

Yoy mention diagnostics. I bought the iCarsoft V2.0 Swedish for the Volvo. Reads and resets all codes, engine, tranmission, chassis, canbus, stability controls, steering, climate, even the inbuilt GSM phone, the works. Configures and/or calibrates new compontents. Best £136 I spent, and has paid for itself several times over this year alone.

If youre ever looking at owning a car over the long term then such a box of tricks is invaluable,

I have got VCDS (VAGCom) for doing stuff on the Caravelle. Not that user friendly, but quite a lot of features. Yesterday i cleared codes from a mate's Transporter Shuttle and the other weekend, recoded another mate's Octavia after he had changed the battery to a AGM.

Some say that dealership servicing costs are best avoided by not using dealers. There are plenty of reputable independent specialists who can maintain or repair Land Rovers to the manufacturers warranty specification. They are usually cheaper, and actually do a whole job for the money which is a bonus.

Fortunately, out last Discovery was an ex-demo which had a 5 year service pack included. Sold it at 5 years 11 months 😊

 

[mustang1]

Wifes C-HR has one, as does daughters M-B Aclass

What annoyed me about it is that, it applies & you can't open door for reversing
(yes.... I do now know it can be switched off)


I'm not a fan of the D3, the shape looks wrong to me (I had a 300Tdi)
In particular that 'crease' makes it look like a double-cab pick-up, with a truckman top

As for the D4, the softer edges improve it
I'd love to try one, with (if it's feasible) the TDV8 transplanted from a L322

Like a Countach!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

It’s not doing too badly
This was a display, when l’d got back from taking daughter into Wakefield
The distance is from purchase, or at worst, a couple of days afterwards
(when l’d figured parts of the technology out)