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Venod

Eh up
Location
Yorkshire
Today in daylight, good visibility, I was passing a line of parked cars on my left (UK) while at the side of a large SUV it started to pull out, I didn't see an indicator, I shouted wooooo very loud and managed to get past in one piece, not long after the SUV caught me up passenger window down, the driver told me to get some Hi Vis and some f***ing lights, I replied with a very polite FO, he put his foot down and sped off, I had a bright orange helmet on, the rest of my clothing was black, how about he checks there is nothing coming before he pulls out and a visit to Specsavers might help, it's a basic manouver, perhaps he shouldn't be driving if he can't manage that.
Rant over.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Glad you're OK.

You showed great restraint. I'd have bent his wipers and trundled off.
 

lazybloke

Priest of the cult of Chris Rea
Location
Leafy Surrey
I've made the point previously that folk should ALWAYS indicate.
The number of people who defend the "no need, there isn't anyone to see the indicator" should have a think about distractions, blind spots, fallibility and other reasons why their stance is wrong and so dangerous.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
....distractions, blind spots, fallibility...

If you were accordingly trained you'd know the drill for that.

The problem is that for the average driver the problem is the opposite - they become a substitute for proper observation. That's the inescapable reality.

Whether you agree with the methodology or not, the bottom line is that us advanced drivers have less whoopsies on the road and accordingly pay less for our insurance.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
If someone can’t see you in broad daylight in good visibility, unless you have high viz and lights, then they must be certifiable blind. God forbid that he admits he didn’t bother looking, didn’t bother indicating, and that his SUV has more blind spots than you can count on two hands.

Glad you are okay.

I cant really add more to that , if they cant see you in broad daylight then they need their licence taking off them
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I cant really add more to that , if they cant see you in broad daylight then they need their licence taking off them
Sadly, over a fifth of drivers are willing to admit to pollsters that they cannot see well enough to drive. It's like this shoot behaviour is so entrenched that they don't see anything wrong with it, or at least not enough to stop them driving. I wonder what % really can't see well enough, including those who don't admit it when surveyed.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
Location
Costa Clyde
The problem is that for the average driver the problem is the opposite - they become a substitute for proper observation.

The problem is that the average driver doesn't give a shoot about either proper observation OR signals. At least if they got into the habit of signaling their intentions, then the rest of us would have a clue as to their possible intentions.

IMHO this modern way of teaching has backfired big time. Seems that signals are now for learners only, because drivers are so good at observing (really??) that they don't need to signal. Signals have somehow become an admission of incompetence. Well, I was taught old school Mirror, Signal, Manoeuvre, and that is what I will continue to do. It has kept my licence clean despite covering somewhere between 12k and 40k miles per year (depending on occupation) over the last 42 years of driving (cars and HGV's) and motorbiking.
 

a.twiddler

Veteran
Perhaps I'm showing my age now, but whatever happened to the notion that you should always drive as if there is an unseen vehicle behind you, and signal and position yourself accordingly? There's a connection with cultivating awareness of what's around you, not doing anything unexpected, and with the knowledge gained from surviving years of motorcycling, that it's the one you didn't see that's gonna get you.

Locally, there's been an increase of vehicles semi permanently parked on bends, near junctions, as if the respective drivers have never seen that mysterious document known as the Highway Code, let alone become aware of recent amendments relating to vulnerable road users. I've been accustomed to thinking for other road users, but there just seem to be so many self entitled drivers around now without two brain cells to rub together that it's hard work. I try to drive, ride a motorbike or cycle in a sort of invisible bubble of awareness but I wonder how many other road users do that, or are even aware of the need for that.
 

presta

Guru
If someone can’t see you in broad daylight in good visibility, unless you have high viz and lights, then they must be certifiable blind. God forbid that he admits he didn’t bother looking, didn’t bother indicating, and that his SUV has more blind spots than you can count on two hands.

Glad you are okay.
The first accident I had in a car occurred as I was passing a line of parked cars on the far side of the road, one that was facing the same direction as me set off in the same direction and hit my drivers door.
"I don't understand, I looked before I set off"
"Yes, I know, I saw you look, but you just looked right through me"
 
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