My God, the price of everything going up!

[Cycleops]

I'm guessing that they put them in out of the way places like small villages because an ambulance might take a long time to arrive.
As @cougie uk says time is of the essence.

 

[bikingdad90]

Do they ever yet used? I've seen them spring up all over the place but who ever uses them?

One of Europes biggest housing estates is in the process of having defibrillators installed in every few roads. There was 46 cardiac arrests over a 3 month period and the only survivor was the one with access to a defibrillator, unfortunately despite CPR the other 45 died.

They are a good idea but access is key!

 

[Slick]

Do they ever yet used? I've seen them spring up all over the place but who ever uses them?

One outside my golf club has sat in a box unloved and mainly unnoticed for years until one of the old boys was found slumped half in and half out his car. Myself and the clubhouse manager managed to wrestle him out his car and onto the floor and that's when the chaos really started. The manager ran for the defibrillator and I did the loosening clothing and clearing airways whilst others called 999. The defib kit was deployed but the old boys who were on the phone to 999 were screaming at us not to shock him but we couldn't find a pulse and neither could the machine. We shocked him and did cpr until the ambulance arrived shortly after a second specialist team arrived and eventually took him away. He survived but can't remember a thing about it, but he couldn't thank us enough and reckons we were the difference. A defib kit is one of these things that's a total waste of money until you need one.

 

[DCBassman]

knows how to use one

The machines are automatic. They combine ECG as well. If it reads as unshockable, it won't fire.

 

[cougie uk]

I understand the logic, but there is one out side our local Co-op unless somebody has a HA inside the shop & somebody knows the combination to the keypad & then knows how to use one, they just come across as an ornament.

I understand the organisers of a fun run are required to have one/several onsite/available but they normally get the St Johns in to do it, who will have the equipment & know how to use it. I know when I just to run Horse shows it was in our insurance policy we had to have medical on-site.

I'm not objecting to them & if they save lives then good, but it seems to me that somebody who has an interest in them convinced somebody it was a good idea to have them put everywhere, seems like a jobs for the boys type of affair, one of Boris's pals maybe.

Parkrun isn't a fun run. There's no charge for it and there's no SJA cover. There have been several people resuscitated at events thanks to the machines.

The defib on the coop wall isn't just for people in the shop - it's anyone in the area.

Call 999 and the operator can find the keycode to let you access the box.

 

[wiggydiggy]

Parkrun isn't a fun run. There's no charge for it and there's no SJA cover. There have been several people resuscitated at events thanks to the machines.

The defib on the coop wall isn't just for people in the shop - it's anyone in the area.

Call 999 and the operator can find the keycode to let you access the box.

This is the exact instruction on the box

 

[classic33]

They've "lost" 70,000 of them and want help in locating them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61992745

 

[Beebo]

I did a 2 day first aid course last year.
The statistics on CPR are awful. Something like less than 10% of patients survive CPR.
The defibs increase the odd of survival. The machine does most of the work for you. It will give you verbal instructions and shock went required. As stated above if the machine senses a pulse it simply won’t activate.

 

[Accy cyclist]

There's a defibrillator on the wall of the old folks centre directly across the road from my flat. A few months ago I saw a few youths using it to get a leg up onto the centre's roof. I took some photos from my window of them just in case some damage was caused (I'd post a few, but sadly deleted them a week or so later). I watched them grumpy/nosey old man style for quite a while on and off. I didn't see any damage being caused, but a few days later there was a pic' of the machine, slightly damaged on the town's Facebook page, showing it'd been tampered with. I didn't send my photos to the page as I didn't want the youths knowing where I lived, so I sent them to the police instead. I didn't expect much of a response, but was surprised to get a reply from them saying the youths had been identified and spoken to. They also thanked me for my vigilance.

 

[Tenkaykev]

Parkrun isn't a fun run. There's no charge for it and there's no SJA cover. There have been several people resuscitated at events thanks to the machines.

The defib on the coop wall isn't just for people in the shop - it's anyone in the area.

Call 999 and the operator can find the keycode to let you access the box.

Our local parkrun has several doctors who run in it. There are quite a few volunteer marshals around the course, and a couple of first aid kits in case someone takes a tumble. I was at another local parkrun a few weeks ago, a chap crossed the finish line and collapsed a few yards further on, within a minute there were two doctors checking him out. He was fine just pushed himself a bit too hard. There are a couple of Midwives who run too, and then there's one of my friends who is an Undertaker, so I think they've got most eventualities covered! 😉

 

[Chislenko]

I understand the logic, but there is one out side our local Co-op unless somebody has a HA inside the shop & somebody knows the combination to the keypad & then knows how to use one, they just come across as an ornament.

The price of stuff in our local Co-op I am sure there are plenty of people having heart attacks in there!

 

[bikingdad90]

@Tenkaykev, only missing a first responder paramedic. I often wonder if paramedics are more skilled then doctors in identifying problems but are poorly equipped for every eventuality as they don’t have a hospital, just a van.

 

[PaulSB]

They've "lost" 70,000 of them and want help in locating them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61992745

Not really lost but get your drift. Nice post and good info, I've just registered the two in my village

 

[Beebo]

Our local parkrun has several doctors who run in it. There are quite a few volunteer marshals around the course, and a couple of first aid kits in case someone takes a tumble. I was at another local parkrun a few weeks ago, a chap crossed the finish line and collapsed a few yards further on, within a minute there were two doctors checking him out. He was fine just pushed himself a bit too hard. There are a couple of Midwives who run too, and then there's one of my friends who is an Undertaker, so I think they've got most eventualities covered! 😉

My local parkrun has a defib. They always mention it in the pre run briefing.

 

[stephec]

Our local parkrun has several doctors who run in it. There are quite a few volunteer marshals around the course, and a couple of first aid kits in case someone takes a tumble. I was at another local parkrun a few weeks ago, a chap crossed the finish line and collapsed a few yards further on, within a minute there were two doctors checking him out. He was fine just pushed himself a bit too hard. There are a couple of Midwives who run too, and then there's one of my friends who is an Undertaker, so I think they've got most eventualities covered! 😉

All you're missing is a vet. 😂