My first go at building a front wheel. Problems..

[Yellow Saddle]

It is possible but how will you do the chopping and how will you clean the thread?

Kerxactely.

 

[Brand X]

It is possible but how will you do the chopping and how will you clean the thread?

I was thinking of winding the threads out past the nipple and snipping the ends off; if the nipple is already on the spoke then I don't have to worry about trying to wind it past a damaged thread. Or that's the theory anyway.

I'll try truing the spokes first to see if I can get away with the spoke lengths first. I might be lucky.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Having restrained myself from stating the blindingly obvious (@User point above) you are then using a brass nipple as a die on the rolled thread stainless steel 'snipped' end. It is the nipple that will suffer. Will probably still 'work' but with less assured subsequent thread engagement, depending on the roughness of the 'snipping'.
Having said that, I echo the plaudits of @Tail End Charlie "Good on you for having a go."

 

[midlife]

It was a bit easier bitd, just roll a but more thread and cut the ends off...

I have a sneaky feeling you might have to buy some more spokes. If it's all built then its easy to swap the spokes one by one

Shaun

 

[Brand X]

You would still have to remove the nipple in order to assemble the wheel, so I can only wish you luck with that plan.

Oh shut up, my logic is infallible I tell you! I don't like reality.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Oh shut up, my logic is infallible I tell you! I don't like reality.

There's something about your avatar and your gumption that I like.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying school fees. Right now I'm on year 2 of learning something new and I've spent about 8k pounds on the learining so far. Yes, sometimes I have to bin material that was perfectly good before I made a bad cut or a poor coating or silly measurement. But with each one I get a bit better. Recently I compared my first object to my last and the improvement is massive and I don't feel so bad about the waste.

Complete your wheel as far as you can go. Then do it again with the right length of spoke. If the first wheel turns out OK with the spokes you think are too long, live with it or re-do it. It isn't a failed project, it is learning in progress.

If you want to do it again, knock on my door and I'll calculate the correct spoke lengths for you.

 

[Brand X]

There's something about your avatar and your gumption that I like.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying school fees. Right now I'm on year 2 of learning something new and I've spent about 8k pounds on the learining so far. Yes, sometimes I have to bin material that was perfectly good before I made a bad cut or a poor coating or silly measurement. But with each one I get a bit better. Recently I compared my first object to my last and the improvement is massive and I don't feel so bad about the waste.

Complete your wheel as far as you can go. Then do it again with the right length of spoke. If the first wheel turns out OK with the spokes you think are too long, live with it or re-do it. It isn't a failed project, it is learning in progress.

If you want to do it again, knock on my door and I'll calculate the correct spoke lengths for you.

Thanks Yellow, I appreciate it. I had to re-do the front wheel today - a couple of beginner mistakes; I didn't lubricate the threads and they were too slack anyway, plus I then found out about how you have to be careful not to twist the spokes. Just about sorted now. Looking at the rear wheel again, I think it probably will be okay; I tightened it a little more and it's starting to get that proper tightness without the spokes jutting out of the end.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Thanks Yellow, I appreciate it. I had to re-do the front wheel today - a couple of beginner mistakes; I didn't lubricate the threads and they were too slack anyway, plus I then found out about how you have to be careful not to twist the spokes. Just about sorted now. Looking at the rear wheel again, I think it probably will be okay; I tightened it a little more and it's starting to get that proper tightness without the spokes jutting out of the end.

Spoke twist comes automatically with properly-tensioned wheels. There are two ways to eliminate them. The first is to always overshoot your nipple advance (just search for "overshoot" with me as the author and you'll find it all explained.
The other way is to press down on the wheel after building. A bit complicated for Friday night. I'm having red wine, maybe I'll go through the explanation later.

 

[midlife]

Nothing like the sound of riding newly built wheels.......and then re-trueing them lol

Shaun

 

[Brand X]

Spoke twist comes automatically with properly-tensioned wheels. There are two ways to eliminate them. The first is to always overshoot your nipple advance (just search for "overshoot" with me as the author and you'll find it all explained.
The other way is to press down on the wheel after building. A bit complicated for Friday night. I'm having red wine, maybe I'll go through the explanation later.

"Overshoot, turn back and then settle."
Got it. I'd put a "thumbs-up" smiley right here, but there isn't one, so here's a smiley with an umbrella instead - it was the closest to a thumbs-up smiley I could find.

 

[simon.r]

There's something about your avatar and your gumption that I like.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with paying school fees. Right now I'm on year 2 of learning something new and I've spent about 8k pounds on the learining so far. Yes, sometimes I have to bin material that was perfectly good before I made a bad cut or a poor coating or silly measurement. But with each one I get a bit better. Recently I compared my first object to my last and the improvement is massive and I don't feel so bad about the waste.

Complete your wheel as far as you can go. Then do it again with the right length of spoke. If the first wheel turns out OK with the spokes you think are too long, live with it or re-do it. It isn't a failed project, it is learning in progress.

If you want to do it again, knock on my door and I'll calculate the correct spoke lengths for you.

I like the "paying school fees" analogy. I've just paid a £40 fee to find out that a modern Shimano Ice-Tech disc rotor doesn't take kindly to being trued with a a pair of grips. Lesson learned!