My advice to newbies.

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Hay great my bike is a GTI

I have a ferrari and a ford mondeo apparantly. Would have thought mountain bikes would make better land rover discoveries. No, they are mondeos tho. Mondeos good off road?
 
To OP: Take out the paragraph about halfords but keep the warning about them having a poor reputation. I cant even buy a footpump from them without havin problems. Seriously! They are that BAD! Ok for lubes, cleaners etc but dont get a bike from them at all costs! In fact dont get a bike from anyone that isnt a specialised bike dealer. Those sets of wheels and sprockets you seen in argos, tescos etc are nothing more than metal bits.


I fully agree to this post. The brake & shifters are cheap & nasty threads strips so easy. Bottom brackets have very little grease if any so any new
rider will just put there new bike in the shed after the peddles start hitting the rear of the frame. Wheels buckle so easy too.
 

Louisearelly

New Member
Thanks for all the helpful advice. I have a road bike at the moment and whilst i do enjoy it, i want to be able to go off road a little more........I was thinking about heading to Halfords so i don't have to spend a fortune buying another bike, now i'm not so sure.....is it possible to buy a mountain bike/tourer type for around the £200 mark in a local bike shop??
 

brokenflipflop

Veteran
Location
Worsley
I have just started road biking and really enjoy it. I wanted a new bike and went to my LBS thinking they might be a bit dearer but a little more keen to get me on the right bike for me. The chap there asked what I was spending, I said about £1k (cyclescheme) and he promptly pulled the only racer there off the wall and said try that. I sat on it, dust, flat tyres and all and he said "that looks about right". Now I'm no bike expert but I thought that was pretty naff. It was a nice looking Giant with shimano tiagra but after extensive research on the web I found a Cannondale Caad 10 with Shimano 105 for £50 less than that Giant. It was delivered next day and I must say I'm delighted with it although I've nothing to compare it to (other than that dusty Giant in the LBS of course) and it was quite expensive for a newbie I suppose. My point is I thought my LBS were rubbish and my internet experience was very good. I'm now a very happy middle aged road cyclist dressed head to toe in spandex and I look a complete prat !
 

Sittingduck

Legendary Member
Location
Somewhere flat
A Grand for Tiagra seems well steep. Would be after 105 or equivalent for such an outlay. The dusty bike and flat tyres sounds like it hasn't been test ridden or sat on by any other customers for a fair while. Probably linked to the first point.
 
Thanks for the overview. You are quite right, I came across my early 1970's Holdsworth in my son's storage unit and recalled the purchase over the phone while stationed in Morocco Africa prior to discharge from the Navy. Got it cleaned up and it is a jewel. Surprizingly I can't find information on the recent history of Holdsworth or even get model specifications on which bike I bought. I recall some form of catalog of models and the equipment/accessories available. I would like to know what I have so I can connect with others who know the breed.
I 've got to go it is late here in Colorado Springs, CO and unfortunately the weather is beginning to remind us of coming changes. Soon skis and snowboards will have to replace my bike and again it will be in storeage.
Hope this gets out somewhere to a member familiar with my equipment and can provide me some understanding of my old friend from 1972.
I'll check back in the morning and see if this message landed anywhere...
I just noticed the insert image icon above but don't know how to do that. HELP!!! I would be glad to attach a photo of my long misplaced 'pony' and have someone help me with information.
Again, now the clock declares it is even later so good night to anyone who comes across my request. Thanks, Holdsworth cycler,
Michael Van Wyk

pretty much everyday there is a post on this forum saying,

'hi newbie, which bike?'

This is good, the people on this forum are passionate about helping people begin cycling.

Unfortunately there are so many, that the responses can be somewhat sporadic. It's not that people dont want to help but it really does get asked an awful lot. These are my views, there are a lot of people with more experience than me on here, but i have been in the same position as most people asking this question as i only got back into cycling over the last couple of years. i have included a lot of generalisaton but these tend to be comonly expressed views on this forum.

So what have you got?
First things first, i'm fairly sure that most people on here have, in a deep dark corner of the garage 'an old bike'. Well thats good, drag it out hose it off and assess the beast. Put some air in the tyres (i KNOW that theyre flat!). My guess is that this bike will do 90% of people who are getting back into cycling, at least for the first couple of months. If it has been in there, unused for a good while, say 4 years plus treat it to a service at your local bike shop (LBS). This should cost you about £60. Use it, enjoy it and if you are lucky you will have no need of new bikes.
If however there is no 'old bike' in the garage or it is completely inappropriate or unsafe then read on.

Firstly a bit of background
You can buy bikes EVERYWHERE nowadays. so lets have a look at the options.

Internet - Great deals - Little service, problems with sizing, not for the uninitiated
Discount suppliers - Motorworld and the like - Very Cheap, Bikes from about £80. The reason theyre cheap is because they're crap. Avoid at all costs.
Specialist bike chains - Buy a bike mag, the big swanky adds will be bike chains, Evans, Edinburgh Cycle co-op. and the like. They offer great choice, decent service and keen pricing. - A bit too corporate for some tastes (not edinburgh cycle co-op which i beleive is a proper co-operative)
Local Bike Shop-Every town has at least one, they dont always have the greatest choice but they do have almost without exception a passion for cycling, and a desire to see you leave on the right bike for you. Fnd a good one and you will treasure it like your firstborn child. These men and women know their stuff.

All things being equal - use your LBS, you wont regret it.

Halfords-One of britains biggest bike retailers, tens of thousands ride happiy on bikes from halfords. They are selling some pretty nice looking Chris Boardman bikes right now. But it is fair to say that they have earned a poor reputation on cycling forums like this. So use with trepidation.

You want a bike? WHAT FOR?
What sort of journeys do you have in mind? This is THE crucial question to deciding what bike you chould buy. I reckon the easiest way to adress this is to look generally at what each type of bike does, then match it to your needs.

ROAD BIKE - A racer as most of us used to call them when we were kids. If you are of a certain vintage then you will find things have changed... A LOT! They are as light as a feather and very quick. But by far the biggest change is that there are no more levers to change gear any more, they are incorporated into the brake levers and it was an invention bordering on genuis!! Dropped handle bars, thin wheels and tyres, anywhere between 10 and 27 gears. These are light fast, used for commuting where your journey is by road (or very good quality cycle tow path). Used for keeping fit, club and sportive (long timed rides). Not great for hooking up child seats trailers etc. If it was a car it would be a Ferrari.
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HYBRID - pretty much designed to be fast commuters. They have 'flat' handlebars, (more comfortable/better view) Good brakes and bits that commuters need such as screws for mudgaurds and panniers etc, Use on road and good quality cycle paths. not ideal for the 'sportier' side of cycling. If it was a car it would be a Golf GTI

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TOURER - a sort of relaxed road bike, will do everything that the bikes above will and a hole lot more, if a tad slower. Comes with holes and screws for lots of panniers and racks in case you fancy going to Bolivia. A comfortable ride. If it was a car it would be a Volvo Estate.

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MOUNTAIN BIKES

Heavyier and sturdier than the bikes listed above. They have different gearing too, which means it's much easier to get up hills on them but not quite so easy to tear along on the flat. Not my area of expertise but they generally fall into three catagories

Rigid - Similar to a Hybrid but a bit slower. Big fat tyres = comfy ride. great for tarmac and rougher trails and cycle ways. Ideal for fitting kids seats to it. A great all rounder used by lots of commuters. If it was a car it would be a Ford Mondeo.

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Frount suspension - Great for rough x country rides and a little tarmac based riding. Quite slow as theyre heavy and 'bouncing up and down is an in efficient use of energy. If it was a car it would be a RAV 4.

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Full Suspension - usually identified by a metal spring or similar connected to the back of the bike - these are really specialist sports bikes for full on mountain biking. If it was a car it would be a Land Rover.

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Specialist bikes - recumbent, trikes, folders, bmx...... the list is endless but most people returning to cycling pass these by. No matter what you are interested in someone on these forums will have one or have ridden one so ask away


Now consider the original question, what journeys will you be using the bike for? Once you have an idea of which bike is for you then get on the internet and get out to the shops. The staff will help you and when you have narrowed it down to two or three models post here and people will find it much easier to advise you on specific bikes. Your big limiting factor is budget but there is something out there for everyone, even if youre skint the second hand market can usually turn something suitable up.

There you go, thats my advice i hope you find it useful. This should with luck enable you to begin making sense of the bike market today. Any feedback welcome.

Andy
 

mickeyt69

Regular
Cheers andy for taking the time to write this very informative and confirmed a few things i was unsure about. I bought a ferrari yesterday :tongue: !!!!
 

Benm61

New Member
Hi guys.

Great thread to start with. I am currently in the market for a new bike and I think I have narrowed it down to a hybrid, but I just want to check I have got this right!

Basically I am starting a new job soon which is about 4.5 miles from my house. It's a bit of a pay cut so I am intending to save cash by cycling there. It's all on roads, generally good roads as well, (apart from a few potholes etc!). As well as the commute I wouldn't mind being to take the bike on a few rides on cycle paths and the like. Nothing too hectic really.

I have a bike at the moment but as far as I can tell its a hand-me-down racer from the late 70's or some such thing! At any rate considering I am quite a large chap I am not sure it's really fit for purpose.

So essentially I think a hybrid would be the right shout. Budget wise I cannot really afford too much. I was really hoping for something under £200. Unfortunately I am a cheap so and so!

Any further help would be great.

Thanks

Ben
 

GTTTM

New Member
Location
here.........
Very helpful thread, wish I'd read it before buying my bike and my boys before that. Although having said that I was already avoiding Halfords like the plague, and Tesco, etc. Went to the LBS (only one I know of round here) and they kind of looked at me and talked to me like I was thick............ went to Wilco (not WIlkinson's lol) and they were incredibly helpful and appeared to know what they were talking about.

None of the 3 bike sI've bought from there has fallen apart (yet..) so I think I got an ok bike.
 

hotfuzzrj

Veteran
Location
Hampshire
Benm61 - I wanted to get into cycling so I was riding a second hand Apollo/Halfords hybrid for a few months to see if I could keep it up, then recently upgraded to a Boardman hybrid, mostly for commuting but I have been on a few 20 and 30 mile rides too. It's great for commuting as the wheels are still very thin for speed but not as 'precious' as racers (!), so you can still do small curbs, minor pot holes etc... It was £495 but I got it on the cycle to work scheme which means over 12 months I only actually pay something like £370. I would heartily recommend this bike.

Mr Ming - I recently bought a pair of naff cycling gloves off e-bay, then was gifted a pair of Altura Ergofit gloves. Needless to say the Altura ones are very comfy, I would recommend these. You can get them from Evans, also off the internet.

(The naff ones I sold on to someone else!)

Happy cycling!
 

Monkspeed

Active Member
Location
Essex, UK
Hi guys.

Great thread to start with. I am currently in the market for a new bike and I think I have narrowed it down to a hybrid, but I just want to check I have got this right!

Basically I am starting a new job soon which is about 4.5 miles from my house. It's a bit of a pay cut so I am intending to save cash by cycling there. It's all on roads, generally good roads as well, (apart from a few potholes etc!). As well as the commute I wouldn't mind being to take the bike on a few rides on cycle paths and the like. Nothing too hectic really.

I have a bike at the moment but as far as I can tell its a hand-me-down racer from the late 70's or some such thing! At any rate considering I am quite a large chap I am not sure it's really fit for purpose.

So essentially I think a hybrid would be the right shout. Budget wise I cannot really afford too much. I was really hoping for something under £200. Unfortunately I am a cheap so and so!

Any further help would be great.

Thanks

Ben

If I were you I would head down to Decathlon, they have some nice Hybrids there for the money. I was looking at this on the weekend http://www.decathlon.co.uk/original-3-id_8165503.html
But get down there and have a look for yourself, you can even ride them in the store to see if you like it or not. :smile:
 
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