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pawl

Legendary Member
Glad my ring door bell didn’t record last nights meteorite last night If it had it would have been approaching at below roof top hight Probably would have been sitting in load of rubble today :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I was visiting my Mother once in hospital and ended up in a lift where Consultant was working alongside a Porter. I asked the Consultant if his pay rate for that day was the same as the porter's usual rate. I can still remember the embarassed silence.

As I understand it the reasons for the strikes are low staff numbers as well as pay rates. People leave nursing to take less stressful jobs, but earning just as much.

Yep it's as much about patient safety as it's about pay currently the number leaving is mostly cancelling out the ones joining.
It's been like it for years many more now have just simple have had enough. Primary care the numbers are even worse the DN team that covers Mrs 73 area is 7 short been like it for years. Every so often she get redeployed for 12 weeks (no-one to take her work she fits that in too) to help out. As a thank you they only give her 20 house calls a day the norm is 30. The wider region has 11 DN teams they are all the same or more. Mrs 73's team is 3 short the other team covering the other 1/2 of region is 4 short. Every area you look is either running at critical or close to.
 

Speicher

Vice Admiral
Moderator
Yep it's as much about patient safety as it's about pay currently the number leaving is mostly cancelling out the ones joining.
It's been like it for years many more now have just simple have had enough. Primary care the numbers are even worse the DN team that covers Mrs 73 area is 7 short been like it for years. Every so often she get redeployed for 12 weeks (no-one to take her work she fits that in too) to help out. As a thank you they only give her 20 house calls a day the norm is 30. The wider region has 11 DN teams they are all the same or more. Mrs 73's team is 3 short the other team covering the other 1/2 of region is 4 short. Every area you look is either running at critical or close to.

Thirty house calls a day, at twenty minutes per visit, plus travel time is ... a lot more than an eight hour day. :ohmy: I am basing a visit on twenty minutes as that is what is took when I was having regular blood tests at home.
 

Jenkins

Legendary Member
Location
Felixstowe
With a delivery expected this morning while I was at work and knowing the forecast was for heavy rain I left a large plastic bag tied to the back door for the postie to use to keep the parcel dry. Little did I know that the sender had used a box twice as big as needed for the contents. Delivery has been resceduled for tomorrow when it will hopefully be dry - I may leave a black plastic waste sack out just in case.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Thirty house calls a day, at twenty minutes per visit, plus travel time is ... a lot more than an eight hour day. :ohmy: I am basing a visit on twenty minutes as that is what is took when I was having regular blood tests at home.

That assumes they are fit when you visit last time she had someone was clearly unwell and needed an ambulance. That turned into 4 hours , another no carers so had to get them up, out of bed and dressed before she started. Complex dressing changers eat into your time too add in initial wound assessments your on way to 1 hour. Some visits are 3 times a day. The regular DN’s just get on with it and work flat out and make it work lords know how. These are part of services that are about keeping people out of hospital. So it’s easy to see why things are the way they are.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
With a delivery expected this morning while I was at work and knowing the forecast was for heavy rain I left a large plastic bag tied to the back door for the postie to use to keep the parcel dry. Little did I know that the sender had used a box twice as big as needed for the contents. Delivery has been resceduled for tomorrow when it will hopefully be dry - I may leave a black plastic waste sack out just in case.

Luckily they leave stuff like that in the greenhouse normally or next door spots them and takes it.
 
That assumes they are fit when you visit last time she had someone was clearly unwell and needed an ambulance. That turned into 4 hours , another no carers so had to get them up, out of bed and dressed before she started. Complex dressing changers eat into your time too add in initial wound assessments your on way to 1 hour. Some visits are 3 times a day. The regular DN’s just get on with it and work flat out and make it work lords know how. These are part of services that are about keeping people out of hospital. So it’s easy to see why things are the way they are.

Tell me about it... Mum was a DN from the early 80s to the mid 90s. What you say now is much like what she used to say back then, so really, et plus ça change...
 
Yep been like it for decades add in an image problem then they wonder why no one wants to to it.

Mum's real bugbear was the students she had to take round on a regular basis. She always complained that they weren't interested in learning how a job was done, and when she asked them why, their standard reply was "oh, we want to do a degree and go into management."

So yeah...

But then as an engineer who was subjected to various management courses, my point is this: how can management "manage" if they've no idea about the work people on the front line actually do. How it's done, the time it takes to do it properly, and what you need for the task in hand.
 

PeteXXX

Cake or ice cream? The choice is endless ...
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Location
Hamtun
Mum's real bugbear was the students she had to take round on a regular basis. She always complained that they weren't interested in learning how a job was done, and when she asked them why, their standard reply was "oh, we want to do a degree and go into management."

So yeah...

But then as an engineer who was subjected to various management courses, my point is this: how can management "manage" if they've no idea about the work people on the front line actually do. How it's done, the time it takes to do it properly, and what you need for the task in hand.

The same applies to the transport industry. It frequently used to be drivers who bought a truck, then two more to set up a company and then managed/drove to get the jobs done. People who knew what life was like as an HGV driver.
Now, it's mainly bean counters running the show.
I've been on both sides as an HGV driver (vocational licence since 1980) and transport manager for Sainsbury's.
The ignorance of each others jobs often astounded me!
 
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