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oldwheels

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It really does depend on the circuit. I did a ten year stint as a pro, shooting mainly at Rockingham, Snetterton and Brands, plus assorted meetings at Silverstone, Donington and Lydden. And short ovals.

At some circuits (like Snetterton before it was... ruined) you could actually get better shots from the spectator banking than from the fenceline, especially at Coram and the Esses. Silverstone was shite regardless, because even with a media pass, you're still half a parsec away from the action, and you really need a 300 2.8 with stacked converters to get close-ups. Brands is one of those places where an amateur can get really good photos (although it's harder these days with the wire fencing), and likewise Rockingham, especially when standing on top of the pits garages.

Admittedly, the definition "amateur" covers a fairly broad spectrum, and I started out as an amateur who got noticed. I came second in a national motorsport competition with a shot I'd taken with a disposable 35mm camera, hanging over the gate behind the pit lane at Snetterton. There are amateurs who do some serious photography, and their stuff is pro-level - the boundary is blurred.

But I'll definitely agree with @Gravity Aided - us pros generally have better kit and a better understanding of the kind of shots that are commercial, especially when it comes to cars out on the circuit. I started out my career in the media shooting film, but switched to digital very quickly purely from a financial / operational standpoint.

Though in my archive, I do have a fair few amateur pit & paddock shots that I really like. The portraits especially, because people are posing for the fans, and they do tend to come across far better than the portraits you see in things like press packs, which make the subjects look like they've been sent to a taxidermist.

Having said that, I was largely known as a pit & paddock specialist. I loved nothing better than to stick a long lens on, lurk in the background and people watch. Or sometimes, stick a short lens on and... No, never mind... :whistle:

Anyways, I hope this helps you understand what I mean. :smile:
I was what you might call a keen amateur but dabbled a bit in the professional world tho’ it was never my ambition to go full time. When I moved to my present location 50 years ago there was nobody else handy for local weddings and other events so I generally got roped in for these kind of things. I never liked doing weddings as so much depended on you to get it right first time tho’ I had no disasters but used a 35mm Russian camera as backup.
I used a Rollieflex mostly and the strangest job I got was photographing Avon Ladies getting presented with prizes I suspect to prove to headquarters that the local rep actually handed over the prizes.:angel:
 

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
The man who lives opposite me and the man next door have both investigated what the notice says. I spoke to them both about ten days ago.

As I understand the notice, it will be a "Telegraph pole" size and is the last link before the signals go into the houses. The 4 or 5 G mast "electricity pylon size" that has objections is some distance away.

You are right in saying that they might say one thing and do another.
The mast will be a bit bigger than a normal telephone pole & have antennas at the top. There will also be cabinets with the base station electronics at ground level.

classic33: I'm surprised that people have had a problem with TV reception, they should have comeback for that. I believe OFCOM are the people to contact
 
I was what you might call a keen amateur but dabbled a bit in the professional world tho’ it was never my ambition to go full time. When I moved to my present location 50 years ago there was nobody else handy for local weddings and other events so I generally got roped in for these kind of things. I never liked doing weddings as so much depended on you to get it right first time tho’ I had no disasters but used a 35mm Russian camera as backup.
I used a Rollieflex mostly and the strangest job I got was photographing Avon Ladies getting presented with prizes I suspect to prove to headquarters that the local rep actually handed over the prizes.:angel:

I've never done weddings - thank goodness. The friends who live a few villages along are wedding & wildlife photographers. Not my cup of tea, but photography is a rather broad church... I saw myself more as a photojournalist, and at some meetings, I was quite literally a photographer AND a journalist. :becool:

A Rolleiflex is something I've never actually used, although I've shot a bit of medium format. That was mainly with boxes or those bellows jobbies - which didn't half make you think about what you were doing. The image in the viewfinder was upside down and reversed...
 
It is snowing here. Not sticking though.
 

mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
We had a very light covering of snow first thing, the temperature was 32F & has now risen into the low 40s with sunshine. Wind is in a generally northern direction & the clouds are hurrying south to join the party. The barometer is rising.
We had a snow storm just now, the barometer is now falling.
 
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mybike

Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
It really does depend on the circuit. I did a ten year stint as a pro, shooting mainly at Rockingham, Snetterton and Brands, plus assorted meetings at Silverstone, Donington and Lydden. And short ovals.

At some circuits (like Snetterton before it was... ruined) you could actually get better shots from the spectator banking than from the fenceline, especially at Coram and the Esses. Silverstone was shite regardless, because even with a media pass, you're still half a parsec away from the action, and you really need a 300 2.8 with stacked converters to get close-ups. Brands is one of those places where an amateur can get really good photos (although it's harder these days with the wire fencing), and likewise Rockingham, especially when standing on top of the pits garages.

Admittedly, the definition "amateur" covers a fairly broad spectrum, and I started out as an amateur who got noticed. I came second in a national motorsport competition with a shot I'd taken with a disposable 35mm camera, hanging over the gate behind the pit lane at Snetterton. There are amateurs who do some serious photography, and their stuff is pro-level - the boundary is blurred.

But I'll definitely agree with @Gravity Aided - us pros generally have better kit and a better understanding of the kind of shots that are commercial, especially when it comes to cars out on the circuit. I started out my career in the media shooting film, but switched to digital very quickly purely from a financial / operational standpoint.

Though in my archive, I do have a fair few amateur pit & paddock shots that I really like. The portraits especially, because people are posing for the fans, and they do tend to come across far better than the portraits you see in things like press packs, which make the subjects look like they've been sent to a taxidermist.

Having said that, I was largely known as a pit & paddock specialist. I loved nothing better than to stick a long lens on, lurk in the background and people watch. Or sometimes, stick a short lens on and... No, never mind... :whistle:

Anyways, I hope this helps you understand what I mean. :smile:

A short lens is much more demanding in terms of skill & nerve.
 
A short lens is much more demanding in terms of skill & nerve.

You mean like this? :whistle:

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