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Buy the OS map and it will reveal a mass of trails and byways that you won't find on the internet. It will also show you places of interest nearby. You need to be looking for yellow or white roads and green dashed bridleways. This is the area covered by Explorer map 208:

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Big thumbs up for paper maps, and everything stated above.... apart from the 'white roads'. Unless they have green dots running along them you can pretty much guarantee that they are private access tracks. The green dots signify that there is legal public access along them, but they are not definitive public rights of way. In the majority of cases these are unsurfaced unclassified county roads (UUCRs).
 
Big thumbs up for paper maps, and everything stated above.... apart from the 'white roads'. Unless they have green dots running along them you can pretty much guarantee that they are private access tracks. The green dots signify that there is legal public access along them, but they are not definitive public rights of way. In the majority of cases these are unsurfaced unclassified county roads (UUCRs).
The majority of white roads shown on the OS maps in England are in fact public roads, used to be called County or Cart roads, Land owners have over time put signs up to say "private road" to deter people using them, then in time by custom and practice people assume they are private roads. the only way to check is to view the definitive (ROW) maps held at council and County Rights of way Offices.
Two events that have confused the right of public passage over White roads, was the enclosure act in the 1800,s but during the first world war, the government levied a land tax on the owners of land in England, however if you had a track or path crossing your land and if you declared that the Public had right of passage over it then you got a large discount on your tax, so most landowners opted to declare the tracks as ROW, the UK government being very organised noted this on the Land registers as being a public ROW, and to this day you can view the register and the associated maps because the status of a track or path declared as a ROW is still valid. and do landowners get a right strop on when you show the fact that 90 odd years ago the owner at that time declared it as a ROW. The land registers are held at the British Library in London.
 
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Definitive maps (and accompanying statements) will only show the legal existence of footpaths (FP), bridleways (BW), the relatively new status of restricted byway (RB) and byways open to all traffic (BOATS). It came about via legislation in 1949, and only shows those that were originally claimed by parishes in the early 1950's from historical evidence, and subsequent legal changes since that time - diversions, creations and extinguishments.

Having worked with def maps on a day to day basis for close on 20 years, I can vouch that the OS depict the PRoW network very well indeed. Obviously the scales used (25K and 50K) do limit accuracy in representing the 'exact line' but for most countryside users purpose they are more than sufficient.

The def map does not show 'white roads' as there is not such legal designation or definition. 'White Road' is just a descriptive term for a map feature, since that's how they are depicted, much the same as green squares, blue squiggly lines and brown splodges. On the ground they get referred to as 'green lanes', again this is just a descriptive 'catch all' term that has no legal standing. The OS use 'twin parallel lines with white infill' (aka white roads) to depict a range of tracks from urban residential roads to private farm access tracks, so coming out with a sweeping statement such as "The majority of white roads shown on the OS maps in England are in fact public roads" is utter tosh.

UUCRS (as I stated above) have public access rights, although only passage on foot can certain and any higher rights are in many cases questionable. However you'll find these on the local highway authority's (the county council usually) 'List of Streets'... not the definitive map.

Anyhoo, here's the IMBA take on this - http://imba.org.uk/what-are-white-roads/
 

PK99

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Just wondered how others plan their MTB trail routes?

Myself and a mate are looking to explore more of the local trails / bridal ways etc and need some tips on making the most of the routes around us. When I ride; i like to have a defined start and finish point to the ride (be it the pub! or a loop from home)
How do you go about planning your routes off road? Any tips or pointers? We are looking to do a 5-10 mile off road loop at the weekend but not sure where to start.

Cheers, Anil.


"ride with gps" using the "Open Street Map Cycle" map setting

http://ridewithgps.com/
 
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Sorry to butt in on the legal rumblings at the Old Bailey here ^_^ but where is my best bet to get a decent OS map of Cannock Chase?
WH Smiths, outdoor shops, petrol stations, Halfords plus plenty other outlets.

It's OS Explorer sheet 244 you're after. Paper will be around £8, but the laminated (waterproof and last much longer) ones run out at a bout £14.

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GrumpyGregry

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Sorry to butt in on the legal rumblings at the Old Bailey here ^_^ but where is my best bet to get a decent OS map of Cannock Chase?
Above and Beyond sell laminated OS maps (Active Map) for £10
 
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