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I see the FIA are messing about again !
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classic33
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Mercedes had a "new" front wing at Austin, that also deflected the airflow around the side of the car.
Illaveago
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Alfonso demoted after the race for having a loose mirror which fell off .
I thought he did well to finish in the points after leaving the track vertically !
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Alfonso demoted after the race for having a loose mirror which fell off .
I thought he did well to finish in the points after leaving the track vertically !
Yes, my first reaction was WTF he did a great race, I'm still not sure how he made that many places up, but if you do look at it, that mirror was dangerous, especially when it parted company with the rest of the car at close to 200mph. Although it's a dangerous precedent to open up, they didn't penalise Perez for the wing endplate (also reported by Haas), so we possibly know the 2 extremes.
Jody
Stubborn git
Troll junior vs ALO - Nice way to introduce yourself to a future colleague and a dangerous driving tactic that needs to be stamped out.
RUS vs SAI was 50/50. Sainz should have known you can't leave that much space and expect someone not to use it. Likewise, you can't dive up the inside and not expect someone to collect you. Apart from being real life racers, they have both done enough online racing to know it was coming.
Not a bad race overall. Shame HAM couldn't hold out but you only have to look how much he was sliding around after keeping VER behind him to know he was giving it everything and cooked the rears.
RUS vs SAI was 50/50. Sainz should have known you can't leave that much space and expect someone not to use it. Likewise, you can't dive up the inside and not expect someone to collect you. Apart from being real life racers, they have both done enough online racing to know it was coming.
Not a bad race overall. Shame HAM couldn't hold out but you only have to look how much he was sliding around after keeping VER behind him to know he was giving it everything and cooked the rears.
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Reynard
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First corner - racing incident. Could've been Druids at Brands Hatch. Nothing doing there, move along... Russell was hard done by.
Stroll v Alonso... That's precisely why you're not meant to deviate from the racing line after making ONE move. Stroll has a habit of doing this. I suspect he gets away with more than most thanks to Papa's deep wallet. That's another massive dent in Aston Martin's budget. Also, it demonstrates what I've been saying all along about ground effect cars.
Namely, that once the venturi is broken, it launches the car into the air. That crash could have been SO much worse, and it's very reminiscent of my early days following F1.
Alonso's mirror... Again, like the Russell decision, really unfair. The FIA and race control have only themselves to blame - they SHOULD, on the precedent they've apparently established, have put out the black & orange flag for him, but didn't. Not as bad as the Suzuka faux pas with the recovery vehicle, but sorry, this lot can't organize a piss up in a brewery...
Stroll v Alonso... That's precisely why you're not meant to deviate from the racing line after making ONE move. Stroll has a habit of doing this. I suspect he gets away with more than most thanks to Papa's deep wallet. That's another massive dent in Aston Martin's budget. Also, it demonstrates what I've been saying all along about ground effect cars.
Namely, that once the venturi is broken, it launches the car into the air. That crash could have been SO much worse, and it's very reminiscent of my early days following F1.
Alonso's mirror... Again, like the Russell decision, really unfair. The FIA and race control have only themselves to blame - they SHOULD, on the precedent they've apparently established, have put out the black & orange flag for him, but didn't. Not as bad as the Suzuka faux pas with the recovery vehicle, but sorry, this lot can't organize a piss up in a brewery...
FishFright
More wheels than sense
Russel deserved the 5 seconds but no more. Mostly his fault but not entirely/
Stroll does seem to have problems using his mirrors and will fall to bit's when Alonso arrives at AM. Daddy Stroll's reaction to this will be amusing.
Alonso's penalty seems odd and the FIA needs consistency* on the loose bodywork penalties as it's looking random at best.
ETA I can't blame Haas protesting as they've been harshly treated on this .
*FIA needs consistency full stop but I do wonder if Liberty Media are part of the problem.
Stroll does seem to have problems using his mirrors and will fall to bit's when Alonso arrives at AM. Daddy Stroll's reaction to this will be amusing.
Alonso's penalty seems odd and the FIA needs consistency* on the loose bodywork penalties as it's looking random at best.
ETA I can't blame Haas protesting as they've been harshly treated on this .
*FIA needs consistency full stop but I do wonder if Liberty Media are part of the problem.
classic33
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The extra parts have been removed from the new front wing for Mexico.
To allow them to run the wing, without the air deflection around the wheels.
Illaveago
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I wonder if it is due to the thinner air at that altitude and so it doesn't benefit the car that much ?
classic33
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It was planned to introduce it in Mexico, on both cars, not one car in Texas.
The parts removed, were directing the air around the car. Nothing to do with keeping the down force from the wing.
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$7million & 10% wind tunnel time, fair for going over by $1.4million?
FishFright
More wheels than sense
About right, the restriction of aero time will hit them pretty hard as they are the lowest anyway due to winning.
The FIA reports etc are on Autosport.
Beebo
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The money doesn’t really matter to a team which is loaded.
It would be better if their cap was reduced by $7 million.
It was unrealistic to expect them to have deducted points as it would be too controversial.
Saracens Rugby we’re relegated for breaching a salary cap, but kept their titles.
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I believe the FIA deemed those parts illegal.
