FishFright
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They were very keen when winning
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They were very keen when winning
Cerdic
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Cadwell's one of the circuits I don't have any experience of.
There's an element of Rockingham as well tho, what with the banked stuff - and I've plenty experience of that place.
I only went to Rockingham once. Great track and great spectator facilities, I thought. Would have loved to see Touring Cars on the oval! Yes, yes, I know, I know...
Shame it’s no longer used. Still, it doesn’t seem to have been knocked down yet so who knows, maybe a miracle will happen!
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Reynard
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Apparently plans are afoot to open it for racing again, either next year or the year after. Fingers crossed!
Rockingham's fabby. Spent eight seasons on the fenceline as a photographer there. My best memory was being taken around the oval by Colin White in a BMW M5. He tried to make me scream, but couldn't. I was having way too much fun.
Oh, and if anyone's wondering, he's on the mend after his Ginetta crash at Thruxton. Spoke to his brother on FB the other night, and he's had surgery to fix his ankle.
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That's good it looked quite nasty & there seems to have been radio silence on how the drivers were
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Reynard
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It was nasty. The other driver involved (Mike Brown) didn't come away from that as lightly as Colin; pelvis broken in three places, six broken ribs, broken collarbone, broken ankle and broken thumb.
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Penalties, this lot should shake the grid up nicely.
Italian GP Penalties
Max Verstappen - 5 places
Sergio Perez - 10 places
Valtteri Bottas - 15 places
Carlos Sainz - 20 places + 5 places (gearbox)
Yuki Tsunoda - Back of the grid
Lewis Hamilton - Back of the grid
https://www.crash.net/f1/news/10118...f1-drivers-taking-engine-penalties-italian-gp
Italian GP Penalties
Max Verstappen - 5 places
Sergio Perez - 10 places
Valtteri Bottas - 15 places
Carlos Sainz - 20 places + 5 places (gearbox)
Yuki Tsunoda - Back of the grid
Lewis Hamilton - Back of the grid
https://www.crash.net/f1/news/10118...f1-drivers-taking-engine-penalties-italian-gp
FishFright
More wheels than sense
All these power train penalties with so many races to go really should prompt a revision of the restrictions on numbers.
And with more qualifying ruining, pointless, money grabbing and expensive Saturday not really races to come this should make the revision even more urgent.
glasgowcyclist
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I think he’s sitting in the back seat of the medical car.
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I must admit to being a little confused as to what will constitute the back of the grid, I understand that depending on how they qualify Tsunoda & Hamilton's positions could be either way around so 19 & 20, but will they be in front or behind Sainz, or although he has 25 grid slots, they have so many more it was just easier to say back of the grid, was it Vettell last year that had a 55 grid slot penalty?
Jody
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Jody
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It's a shoot system
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Reynard
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Wasn't there a bit of a kickback over grid penalties in the recent past? I seem to remember some really silly penalties being handed out at one point.
Wouldn't it make sense if any "excess" gets either a) carried over to the next event or b) the driver is made to start from the pit lane with a time penalty applied (wait at the top of the pit lane to be released) if the original penalty exceeds a set number of grid slots.
Wouldn't it make sense if any "excess" gets either a) carried over to the next event or b) the driver is made to start from the pit lane with a time penalty applied (wait at the top of the pit lane to be released) if the original penalty exceeds a set number of grid slots.
FishFright
More wheels than sense
Was it around the time of the Mclaren / Honda meltdown ?
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It is flawed but what's the alternative, it's also open to abuse which I suspect RB are doing this weekend with Verstappen, they took a new unit at Spa as they knew they had the speed to get through, they are doing the same this weekend, they then have 2 'fresher' engines to get to the end of the year. Mercedes did similar at Spa but Hamilton stuffed by hitting Alonso.
It's all about the cost cap, which it you don't the big 3 would just run a new engine in each car every race weekend, or as they did in the past even having special qualifying engines that would be swapped overnight although now with the Parc fermé they might not be able to do it.
You could add seconds to their start times a bit like @Reynard is suggesting but have them on the grid with their own individual starter, you're wanting to penalise the manufacturer not the driver, you could take points off them in the manufactures championship, but like now if it was 10 points for an engine, RB may decide they could afford to lose 10 points if they could influence the win.
