Motorsports Thread

[Deleted member 1258]

That was a real weird one, it seemed at the time he was the only one who could, even Valentino couldn't

The bikes were designed to suit his riding style, thats why no one else could ride them, at one point Honda were doing the same with Marquez.

 

[Reynard]

I always felt he should have managed to get a world championship

Yes, deffo.

At one point, he was the only rider who could stack up to Marquez - who then promptly took him out of a race and cost Dani that year's championship.

Marquez is someone with the same attitude to racing as Senna and Schumacher - namely doesn't care who he craps on to get what he wants. And the Honda management encouraged that, turning him into a right little Caligula.

 

[Salad Dodger]

I thought Caligula made two stroke race bikes.......

 

[figbat]

Marquez is someone with the same attitude to racing as Senna and Schumacher - namely doesn't care who he craps on to get what he wants. And the Honda management encouraged that, turning him into a right little Caligula.

I see your point, but...

Marquez - 6 top flight championships.
Schumacher - 7
Senna - just the three but arguably cut short.

 

[Reynard]

I see your point, but...

Marquez - 6 top flight championships.
Schumacher - 7
Senna - just the three but arguably cut short.

It's not about numbers. I was talking about the toxic, selfish personality.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

Yes, deffo.

At one point, he was the only rider who could stack up to Marquez - who then promptly took him out of a race and cost Dani that year's championship.

Marquez is someone with the same attitude to racing as Senna and Schumacher - namely doesn't care who he craps on to get what he wants. And the Honda management encouraged that, turning him into a right little Caligula.

Standard winning mentality.

 

[figbat]

It's not about numbers. I was talking about the toxic, selfish personality.

Yep - I was just correlating that with the numbers. I don't believe many long-term, multiple world champions have been salt-of-the-earth types.

 

[Reynard]

Standard winning mentality.

Very much so.

And I think it's worse now in motorsports than it used to be, simply because they start so young. And if they're being bankrolled by wealthy parents / wealthy conections, they get this sense of entitlement, because no one actually dares say no to them. As a result, you end up with drivers and riders with the emotional maturity of a toddler.

Back in the day, you used to have to have a full road licence to be able to race on the circuits.

 

[Reynard]

Yep - I was just correlating that with the numbers. I don't believe many long-term, multiple world champions have been salt-of-the-earth types.

Not just multiple world champions - a lot of top-line drivers are pretty nasty pieces of work. You wouldn't want to invite them round for a beer, or for tea and cakes.

Am talking from experience here. I've been shat on, both professionally and personally.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Back in the day, you used to have to have a full road licence to be able to race on the circuits.

I thought I remembered Rocket Ron Haslam winning his first British championship before passing his test, but my memory os a twisted thing

 

[Reynard]

I thought I remembered Rocket Ron Haslam winning his first British championship before passing his test, but my memory os a twisted thing

I only know what it used to be for cars. All you had to do was provide a full road licence and join a motor club, and bob's your uncle. All this ARDS stuff came in mid 90s IIRC.

The only circuit in the UK (not short ovals) where you could drive without having passed your DVLA driving test was Goodwood.

 

[Chislenko]

Channel hopping late last night and settled on a re-run of the Bennett's British Superbikes from Thruxton last week.

Although like a lot of other Motorsport these days there were three principle riders, then the rest some way back, the three at the front provided one helluva battle, the lead seesawing many times and some quite remarkable passing especially towards the end of the race on "past their best tyres"

Thoroughly enjoyable watch.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Ricciardo to leave McLaren at the end of the season confirmed, it was clear Zak Brown would get his way, it's a shame as I've always liked Daniel, but he's just not been able to get to grips with the car in the same was as Norris has, but he was the only one who could keep Verstappen honest in a car that was totally built around the way Verstappen drives, even Perez is now struggling as they move the car away from his style of driving & towards Verstappens.

 

[Reynard]

There were whispers going around the other week that Piastri is headed to McLaren after he and Alpine both denied that he was going there...

Aaaah, welcome to the F1 Silly Season.