Dayvo
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He's not a band, but he should be banned! Michael Jackson! Overrated or WHAT?
Same applies to Madonna!
Same applies to Madonna!
Most overrated band?
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Dayvo said:
I think they've both done some great songs, but the vast majority were early in their careers.
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Rhythm Thief said:
It's a tricky one, 'cos the Beatles 'really' re-invented and made more popular what was already American 'Rock & Roll' from the likes of Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis et al.
The fact they were later influenced from other sources led to the change to modern popular music & songs as we know them today.
And Sinatra was a 'Crooner', never a singer in the traditional sense.
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I wouldn't deny their historical importance, but that's not the point is it? Otherwise we're just stuck slavishly worshipping the Mojo Approved List of Proper Artists (tm). Didn't rock'n'roll (Beatles, Elvis et al) revolutionise popular music and sweep away the old order? Shame that those revolutionaries (yup, punk included) are now set texts, the canon which you may not disapprove of. FWIW I sodding hate the vast majority of Victorian novellists because they mean nothing to me and I deeply resent being told that they are Proper Literature and therefore beyond critiscism. The Beatles are, to me, in the same ballpark as George Elliot, Thomas Hardy and the Brontes. By all means tug your forelock to their historical importance but I prefer to deal with music on a more instinctive level, which is how it should be.Disgruntled Goat said:Still waiting for someone to suggest an act with more influence and damn good tunes to boot.
Yes, I suppose you could say they are over-rated in that some people spend an unhealthly length of time disecting and writing about them. I'm not one of those, in fact I'd say the Pre '73 Rolling Stones run them a close second but their music stands the test of time IMO.
But to say they were 'just a band' says far more about you than it does them.
It's like saying Citizen Kane is just a film. Watch it now and you might wonder what all the fuss is about. But look at filmes Pre-Kane and Post-Kane and you'll see Kane wrote the book when it came to 'How to make a Modern film'. It's techniques and devices are used in just about every film made today.
Anyway, who do you rate? Go on, give us a laugh
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it is indeed, which is why it annoys me so much that a chap can't say that he doesn't like the Beatles without being badgered for a PhD level thesis explaining why. 'Because I don't', that's all the explanation required...User1314 said:
Thomas Hardy is a genius.
But, yes, it's art so judgement of it's value is fundamentally going to be subjective. This applies, of course, to all art - music, lit, painting etc.
That is why this is an open-ended discussion with no conclusive answer.
Beauty in the eye of the beholder and so forth.
They are so slavishly worshipped that they can't be anything other than overrated.
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User482 said:Oh dear. I like:
The Beatles
some of The Rolling Stones
Radiohead
REM
The Smiths/ Morrissey
David Bowie
Bob Marley
So looks like my musical taste annoys just about all of you!
Though I do think that Pink Floyd are an abomination - the only thing worse than them are their tedious fans.
Not all of it annoys me! But then I'm also one of those tedious Pink Floyd fans!
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Chuffy said:
This is also a good point, and absolutely true.
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mjones said:Not all of it annoys me! But then I'm also one of those tedious Pink Floyd fans!
We'll have to differ on that one! I find them an entirely boring dirge, but that usually provokes the response from fans that I don't "get" them. The outrage when the Scissor Sisters covered Comfortably Numb was most amusing.
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Fanrage when their band gets covered is always amusing. Although the G4 cover of Bo Rap was, perhaps, beyond the pale...User482 said:
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Uncle Mort said:I think the worst I've ever seen was Robbie Williams covering "Smells like teen spirit" on German TV.
Nonononono. Tell me that's not true.
Actually, Nirvana are pretty overrated, in my humble opinion. They didn't do much that the Pixies and the Meat Puppets hadn't already done.
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If you want a good cover of 'Smells Like...' then Weird Al is your man.
Dayvo
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Chuffy said:
That is so bloody true, Chuffy! Your best post yet!
There are a few here who seem to be the opposite of trolls (if there can be such a thing) who consider their opinions to be of total knowledge, wisdom, importance and relevance!
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I don't know why people can't enjoy the interplay - equally, people are bound to defend bands they like if someone else says they are overrated... and why not?
Kirstie
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nyaaaah. i likes a bit of interplay. laaaverly.
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nyaaaah. i likes a bit of interplay. laaaverly.
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Rhythm Thief said:
Believe or not, I pretty much missed Nirvana. I loved the Pixies, Husker Du, Minutemen and the Meat Puppets but somehow never paid any attention to Nirvana. I don't know why because, in retrospect, they were worthy of listening to.
Reminds me, Fugazi were a band I had a great deal of time for too. I so rated Husker Du that after their break up, I kept an ear out for Bob Mould's work - Sugar were excellent and I like his solo stuff too. A truly talented musician.
I try not to over analyse why I like some bands and not others, I do prefer to go on a kind of gut instinct. But if there's one thing I'd say I do switch on to (and this really will sound like w*nk, I know!) it's honesty. I can like more-or-less any kind of music if I can hear/feel that the musician is doing something they believe in, something that moves them... and they're not saying 'look at me'.
