Milk, or the lack of..

[presta]

I only drink UHT skimmed, I see no problem with my supply lol

Same here. Stocks of the budget brand at Tesco have been a bit intermittent, but it's been available at Sainsburys throughout, and there's still the full price stuff at a pinch.

Skimmed... Bleurgh!

I thought skimmed milk tasted pretty ropey at first, but after drinking it for a while it was the whole milk that tasted horrible and sickly. It's just a matter of what you're used to.

 

[wiggydiggy]

Same here. Stocks of the budget brand at Tesco have been a bit intermittent, but it's been available at Sainsburys throughout, and there's still the full price stuff at a pinch.

I thought skimmed milk tasted pretty ropey at first, but after drinking it for a while it was the whole milk that tasted horrible and sickly. It's just a matter of what you're used to.

Aldi or Lidl for me.

I do like a glass of full fat blue, I'll occasionally buy one of those really small 350ml blue cartons as a treat but red is the way forward for me.

 

[presta]

But if everybody turned vegan overnight, almost all farm animals would have to be slaughtered, because we would need the grazing land for growing food crops. Obviously, we aren't going to get the situation where everybody would turn vegan overnight, but even over a period, it would lead to similar.

The reason beef is so environmentally damaging is that it takes ~30 acres of land to produce the same calories as you can produce from one acre of vegetables. Close a beef farm, and 97% of the land becomes redundant for food production, and available for other uses.

 

[Reynard]

I thought skimmed milk tasted pretty ropey at first, but after drinking it for a while it was the whole milk that tasted horrible and sickly. It's just a matter of what you're used to.

I tend to defer to the judgement of my furry quality control officers.

 

[DCBassman]

I thought skimmed milk tasted pretty ropey at first, but after drinking it for a while it was the whole milk that tasted horrible and sickly. It's just a matter of what you're used to.

Same for me with semi-skimmed. Whole too rich, skimmed too watery.

I tend to defer to the judgement of my furry quality control officers.

Ours drinks corporation champagne, in theory. In reality, she sups from any grotty container she can find outside, mainly plant saucers and the water feature...

 

[Reynard]

Same for me with semi-skimmed. Whole too rich, skimmed too watery.

Ours drinks corporation champagne, in theory. In reality, she sups from any grotty container she can find outside, mainly plant saucers and the water feature...

Madam Pearl used to drink from the porcelain throne...

Mesdames Poppy and Lexi have a dog water dispenser (one of those Torus things), because Madam Poppy likes paddling, and she can't tip this one up as it's too big.

 

[Cycleops]

Someone on twitter once told me that we have to keep eating meat, otherwise the world would be overrun with billions of head of feral livestock.

Not so bad as being run over by hordes of feral vegans.

 

[Alex321]

The reason beef is so environmentally damaging is that it takes ~30 acres of land to produce the same calories as you can produce from one acre of vegetables. Close a beef farm, and 97% of the land becomes redundant for food production, and available for other uses.

While beef is the worst meat, and even the best meat (chicken) is not as good as most plants, the difference is not that high.

Most of the figures I can find suggest more like 5 times than 30 times.
http://myweb.astate.edu/jpratte/activities/activity8-1.htm

https://www.waldeneffect.org/blog/Calories_per_acre_for_various_foods/

 

[DRM]

And I’m quite sure the vegans will be highly delighted when “The knacker man” calls to dispose of all the milk cows which are no good for meat either, when they’ve stopped milk production

 

[FishFright]

And I’m quite sure the vegans will be highly delighted when “The knacker man” calls to dispose of all the milk cows which are no good for meat either, when they’ve stopped milk production

But they will be delighted when they aren't replaced.

It must be pointing out the bleedin' obvious day.

 

[DRM]

But they will be delighted when they aren't replaced.

It must be pointing out the bleedin' obvious day.

Ah so vegans are in support of bovine firing squads, got it

 

[Time Waster]

How many acres of land does it take to grow 10 bowls of spinach for everyone to replace the one small steak to get the same amount of iron? What I mean is to match the nutrients we have evolved to need is actually not easy from a vegan diet. We are omnivores and need a bit of everything. I think outright conversion to veganism is the wrong ideal. We should just be cutting back the worst meats for the planet / best meats for nutrients not cutting out.

BTW pea milk replacement has the most nutrients value and is better for you than cow's milk for much of the main nutrients in it. I think there's another substitute that's higher than cow's milk but pea is the best option for nutrition. It was on my windows weather news tab this week.

 

[FishFright]

Ah so vegans are in support of bovine firing squads, got it

Read it again then amend your post .

 

[fossyant]

Panic over. No such milk issue at my local co-op just now. Drinking a pint of milk chilled to 3c. Lovely.

 

[classic33]

Probably heading to The Other Place but this is the milk aisle in Tesco this morning due, apparently, to vegan eco people blockading depots and inflicting criminal damage on trucks..

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Now what can I pour on my WheatyBangs!?

What did you pour on your WheatyBangs then?