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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Good post. However ...
I've never seen a banana-skin tree. If I saw such a tree, I'd probably think to throw mine somewhere else, or tuck it into a hidden spot.

I wouldn't throw a 'skin into someone's garden or similar. I tend to only jettison organic stuff in the countryside; where there are plenty of things to eat/decompose it, and very few people around to take offence.

And I stopped eating 'nanas on rides years ago, as their ubiquity on organised events put me off the things!

Look what happened to this tree locally when too many banana skins left

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What an eye-sore!



You really need to sort out your garden.
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
It would be more cost efficient to revert to free usage of council recycling centre's for self tipped van loads of trade waste.

It was imposing a relatively small charge that caused the increase in fly-tipping which is very expensive to police and clear up after.

I thought I'd caught a van in the act on morning, turns out it was the council picking it all up to "unblock" the country lane. I regret punching him before giving him a chance to explain.

*no of course I didn't punch him

I agree that charging at Council Recycling Centres may not have helped. But, I do think it is more complicated than that. The Local Council Where I live have just reduced their charged for removal of bulky waste from residents property (ie, they come and collect it and take it away, all you have to do is put it at the edge of your property, where they can pick it up). The charge is £12.50 for upto 8 items. If you have a car, and can take the items to the recycling centre yourself, there is no charge. The bulky waste collection can be booked online. Still, we have a problem with fly-tipping, and, people would rather pay some toe-rag they found on Facebook, or, who was recommended by a "friend" to take their discarded fridge, chair, whatever and dump it illegally. I cannot believe this is cheaper than £12.50!
 
One of the tips near here is at the start of a cycle path along a canal
I often see junk tipped on the grass at the start of the cycle path - literally yards from the tip
I assume people don;t want to go to the tip when it is open - but the opening times are not unreasonable so it is just at attitude of "if I want rid of it then I'll just dump it"
 
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I agree that charging at Council Recycling Centres may not have helped. But, I do think it is more complicated than that. The Local Council Where I live have just reduced their charged for removal of bulky waste from residents property (ie, they come and collect it and take it away, all you have to do is put it at the edge of your property, where they can pick it up). The charge is £12.50 for upto 8 items. If you have a car, and can take the items to the recycling centre yourself, there is no charge. The bulky waste collection can be booked online. Still, we have a problem with fly-tipping, and, people would rather pay some toe-rag they found on Facebook, or, who was recommended by a "friend" to take their discarded fridge, chair, whatever and dump it illegally. I cannot believe this is cheaper than £12.50!

That's interesting. And we have some cr@p lying around, so will check for a similar local scheme ...

But I always had the impression that most fly-tipping was from small-ish traders getting rid of crap from the day's work. That's based partly on looking at the content. Maybe I'm wrong?!
 
That's interesting. And we have some cr@p lying around, so will check for a similar local scheme ...

But I always had the impression that most fly-tipping was from small-ish traders getting rid of crap from the day's work. That's based partly on looking at the content. Maybe I'm wrong?!

Stuff on the telly that looks at this interview the counsel about this and they seem to mostly blame either small traders - as you say
but mostly people who take payment to take stuff away and dump it legally - but then just lob it into a quiet field

The worst cases seem to the the latter
 

T4tomo

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That's exactly my point (boldon & widnes), its free to normal residents to take stuff to the "tip" or a small charge if you want it collecting where that service operates. The vast majority of fly tipping is from traders / commercial operators, who used to be able to use the tip for free, but now have to pay, and some choose to not pay and fly tip instead.

I've had work done where the tradesman has made it clear the price excludes removal of rubbish (as he'd have to jack up the price for that) so i took away the stuff to the tip (for free) in my estate car.
 
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Dogtrousers

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But I always had the impression that most fly-tipping was from small-ish traders getting rid of crap from the day's work. That's based partly on looking at the content. Maybe I'm wrong?!
Same here. You see things like the contents of an old bathroom that has been ripped out, or similar renovation rubbish. Not generally the kind of stuff that individual householders have to get rid of because they have it lying around. More the stuff that builders put in their skips and then they, or their dodgy skip mates, chuck in a lane.
 
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That's interesting. And we have some cr@p lying around, so will check for a similar local scheme ...

But I always had the impression that most fly-tipping was from small-ish traders getting rid of crap from the day's work. That's based partly on looking at the content. Maybe I'm wrong?!

Someone near to us dumps large numbers of what look like lorry tyres on a fairly regular basis. We once had someone who dumped what must have been a fairly big lorry load near to one of our buildings. A bit of a search revealed some flyers printed by a builder with only their mobile phone number on the flyer. The police said "They couldn't investigate because (insert your own silly reason here").
 

Threevok

Growing old disgracefully
Location
South Wales
We've had a few high profile incidents here over the years, including 3 tons of Asbestos dumped near a pond.

As a result, Caerphilly Council have really pulled their finger out and is now has one of the highest rates of any council, for successful prosecutions.
 

BoldonLad

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Location
South Tyneside
That's interesting. And we have some cr@p lying around, so will check for a similar local scheme ...

But I always had the impression that most fly-tipping was from small-ish traders getting rid of crap from the day's work. That's based partly on looking at the content. Maybe I'm wrong?!

Yes, I think a significant proportion (in my area) would fit that description, maybe a third(?), not that I have ever counted it. But, a lot is discarded White Goods/Electrical (Fridges, Freezers, TVs, etc). I even notice quite a lot that the average householder could have put in their bin (eg bags of drinks cans).

When individuals are caught, and they get the 30 seconds of fame in the local paper, being given a FPN, £100 typically, the majority appear to be young and female. They are usually caught because they discard items with their address on them (Amazon packaging is a typical example). I do wonder how many of the FPNs are actually paid.

I just think it is another one of those "problems" which superficially appears simple to fix (ie free access to recycling centre etc), but, which, in reality, is more complicated and requires a bit of carrot and stick or whatever. ;)
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Yes, I think a significant proportion (in my area) would fit that description, maybe a third(?), not that I have ever counted it. But, a lot is discarded White Goods/Electrical (Fridges, Freezers, TVs, etc). I even notice quite a lot that the average householder could have put in their bin (eg bags of drinks cans).

When individuals are caught, and they get the 30 seconds of fame in the local paper, being given a FPN, £100 typically, the majority appear to be young and female. They are usually caught because they discard items with their address on them (Amazon packaging is a typical example). I do wonder how many of the FPNs are actually paid.

I just think it is another one of those "problems" which superficially appears simple to fix (ie free access to recycling centre etc), but, which, in reality, is more complicated and requires a bit of carrot and stick or whatever. ;)

I’ve seen kids drop rubbish no more than 20 feet from a bin. When it comes to disposing of rubbish many people are just bone idle and don’t care about litter.
 
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