Lithium. Again.

[presta]

Perhaps E-bike batteries keep catching fire because people stick their heads in the sand and pretend they don't.

 

[wafter]

Not that I had a problem with it personally, but I suspect you last thread was canned due to draggy-dead-guy content rather than a desire to hush up this very legit problem...

 

[Regular.Cyclist]

It’s not confined to e-bike batteries.

The NHS organisation I work for has spent a small fortune in purchasing appropriate fire proof systems in which to charge lithium batteries in clinical areas and we now have to have sand filled fire proof boxes in all service areas.

These are quality batteries that have passed all approvals to be used in a medical device and they still pose danger.

 

[presta]

Not that I had a problem with it personally, but I suspect you last thread was canned due to draggy-dead-guy content rather than a desire to hush up this very legit problem...

Indeed, but I think that made people noticeably less dismissive of the risks on that thread, which is why I posted it.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Mod Note:

Not that I had a problem with it personally, but I suspect you last thread was canned due to draggy-dead-guy content rather than a desire to hush up this very legit problem...

Exactly.

Indeed, but I think that made people noticeably less dismissive of the risks on that thread, which is why I posted it.

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Still, you should have known better.
Please post content you would be happy for a 12 year old to access.
This is what @Shaun, Cycle Chat's owner, wishes.
Cheers.

 

[DRM]

As I wrote on the previous thread, Li-ion powered fork lifts will NOT be modified by Pyroban to make them safe for use in EX Zoned areas, under ATEX Regulations, such as Petrochemical Plants, Gas Plants, or in dusty atmospheres, these are batteries built to the highest safety standards, not something from Ebay, so why in the name of everything that's holy would you want to bring a cheap Li-ion battery in to your home, it baffles me, it really does.

 

[C R]

Coincidentally, just after seeing the original post, I went looking for something in a drawer and noticed that an oldish mobile phone being kept there was bulging. It turns out that the battery expanded and pushed out the screen, luckily the pouch wasn't pierced. This was a five or six year old Motorola with its original battery, no cheapo ebay.

I took the battery out and left it in the garden under an overturned bucket until I could take it to the tip in the morning.

 

[presta]

Please post content you would be happy for a 12 year old to access.
This is what @Shaun, Cycle Chat's owner, wishes.
Cheers.

Just about everywhere is accessible by 12 year olds these days though.

 

[MontyVeda]

Just about everywhere is accessible by 12 year olds these days though.

that's not the point and you know it.

 

[presta]

that's not the point and you know it.

Isn't it? Just where is suitable if it's something that needs to be seen, and everywhere is accessible to 12 year olds?

 

[MontyVeda]

Isn't it? Just where is suitable if it's something that needs to be seen, and everywhere is accessible to 12 year olds?

your post was removed because it was deemed not suitable for 'here'. That is all. Get over it

 

[Smokin Joe]

Surely twelve year olds need be aware of the dangers of Lithium batteries as much, if not more than the rest of us? Being at that careless stage of life they are more likely to damage them than most.

 

[Spartak]

I did a Fire marshall course at work and the 'instructor' explained the risks of lithium batteries and the damage they can do.
However they are still widely used in numerous items.

 

[lazybloke]

There are much safer and cleaner battery chemistries available, eg sodium-ion.

If they develop sufficiently to be economically viable, and matching or approaching the energy density and cost, then they'll take over.
More importantly, at that point, lithium-ion can and must be banned

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

There are much safer and cleaner battery chemistries available, eg sodium-ion.

If they develop sufficiently to be economically viable, and matching or approaching the energy density and cost, then they'll take over.
More importantly, at that point, lithium-ion can and must be banned

I was at University in 1980 and was involved (on the edges) in a research project about sodium ion batteries
so I have checked up on them from time to time (but not for a while to be honest)
Their progress has been incredibly slow - to the point where I gave up looking at them

I can;t see them taking over in a time scale where the current 12 year old will see them as normal when they are "grown up"

but I agree - once there are good replacements then Li batteries - as they are now - need to be phased out quickly!