Lateral flow tests - kits - anyone managed to get any?

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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
we are what 21mths into this covid pandemic and as yet, no covid caught and zero tests required………i wfh and have all food and groceries delivered. Also had a all my timber, compost, topsoil etc etc all delivered last year when doing my projects.

i have stuck to every rule and will do going forward.
 

PaulSB

Squire
sorry paul:

This is from the NHS web page:

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How to get rapid tests
Pick up tests from a pharmacy
Picking up tests from a pharmacy is the quickest way to get a rapid test for most people.

If you give the pharmacy a 'collect code' when you pick up the tests, it helps the NHS match your details to the tests. Find out about collect codes and how to get a collect code on GOV.UK

Find a pharmacy near you where you can collect rapid tests
Order tests to do at home
Information:
Only order online if you cannot get a test through other methods. This frees up home delivery for those who need it most.

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See last line in particular.

(all bolds are the NHS's, not mine)

By trotting along to my local pharmacy (3 times without success) and then two more visits across town it was precisely my intent to help myself and avoid troubling folk/the system and not jumping in front of anyone.

Before setting off for both of those tests I also checked online and was told that there was low demand/a very short wait - ie I would not only not put myself out too much (other than zig-zagging around south London) and neither would I be pushing more needy folk out of the way.

I cannot claim to be someone who "needs it most", I am in decent health, and am mobile.

For walking to the pharmacy or anywhere else.

I have always tried to not overburden the NHS, follow rules/guidance.

It does indeed however appear to have been a total waste of my time.

Maybe some on here don't follow the above advice - I don't know - don't know their circumstances.
I can't disagree with anything you say and was already aware of the NHS Guidance. Thank you for the responsible attitude you take on it.

I'm sure you won't think I'm trying to be clever with this next bit. My wife is clinically vulnerable, my son with SLD is clinically vulnerable as are the three men he shares a house with, I'm in the very broad at risk category by age. My son and his housemates have been subject to the same restrictions as care homes for the aged - we've heard a lot about this but absolutely nothing about the impact on those with physical and mental disadvantages who live in the community and need 24 hour care.

We test every time we visit our son and it is essential we protect ourselves so as to protect him. We've spent almost two years avoiding as much contact as possible with situations we can't control and so I've no desire to visit a pharmacy other than our local one to collect meds. Our postman delivers the kits so we take nothing from anyone in this respect. I do feel the pharmacies have better things to do than help me and I can't afford to waste my time and effort to date on a potentially risky trip to town.

You have run around all over town. I do wonder how safe this is and in some ways it is safer to have home delivery?
 
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winjim

Smash the cistern
I get the feeling, having ordered online before, that they've changed the wording on that front page over the last couple of days, possibly more than once. Can't be 100% sure because I never read it properly...
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
MrsF just ordered an at home PCR as she's now on anti-biotics and steroids for a chest infection (son had it a week ago). Just being safe as LFT's negative. Too much form filling for her to order more for us TBH, but were just showing cold symptoms, LFT's negative.
 
Been trying to order LFD kits from the nhsinform website for a couple of days without success. Then today I happened to be walking past an empty looking PCR test site. I asked at the gate if they were dispensing LFD kits, yes they were, handed me a couple of kits just like that.
 
OP
OP
Blue Hills
Location
London
I can't disagree with anything you say and was already aware of the NHS Guidance. Thank you for the responsible attitude you take on it.

I'm sure you won't think I'm trying to be clever with this next bit. My wife is clinically vulnerable, my son with SLD is clinically vulnerable as are the three men he shares a house with, I'm in the very broad at risk category by age. My son and his housemates have been subject to the same restrictions as care homes for the aged - we've heard a lot about this but absolutely nothing about the impact on those with physical and mental disadvantages who live in the community and need 24 hour care.

We test every time we visit our son and it is essential we protect ourselves so as to protect him. We've spent almost two years avoiding as much contact as possible with situations we can't control and so I've no desire to visit a pharmacy other than our local one to collect meds. Our postman delivers the kits so we take nothing from anyone in this respect. I do feel the pharmacies have better things to do than help me and I can't afford to waste my time and effort to date on a potentially risky trip to town.

You have run around all over town. I do wonder how safe this is and in some ways it is safer to have home delivery?
no - didn't think you were being clever with the following bit - you clearly qualify as someone who needs the home delivery most. Me not.
Anyways I get the feeling that a fair old number of folk may have been ignoring the guidance/rules/request/plea for a fair old while and just getting the postie and all the extra folk involved in that supply chain rushing breathlessly to their door with the packs. And that as stated upthread the government, if we still have such a thing, has quietly changed its approach. The pharmacy I went to three times is a very short walk from me - never been a problem in the past - i strolled down when quiet.* By the by, on the alternative, my local post sorting/delivery office is apparently so under-staffed at the moment because of mass cases of covid that there are severe delivery delays and talk of folk not getting their presents on time. So ordering stuff that way may well put more needy folk out/push them back.
Anyways, I managed to find a test kit I had left around - needed it for someone I was going to visit even though we are both double-jabbed and boosted. Test was negative.
Merry christmas all.
The party's over.

* They did the first time ask me what I wanted the test kit for though - which I thought was a pretty daft question - or maybe I'm really out of touch and there's a tick-tock pary game using them.

By the by, I have certain doubts about the message that there is no supply problem and that it's just some mysterious "supply chain" issue - seems serious to me if a pharmacy testing station can't get them. That local pharmacy I mentioned answered my query with a tone that suggested they had little idea when they might get them. That pharmacy notice I photographed above baldly stated that they had no idea. It is possible that postal deliveries are being prioritised - for all those "high need" folks.

And you clearly are such a case.
 
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OP
OP
Blue Hills
Location
London
Well whaddya know.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...un-out/ar-AARONiD?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ

Clearly my London experience was not a freak.

(Three visits to one pharmacy then a visit to another and another to a supposed supply point/testing station)

>>despite entire cities running out by lunchtime on Tuesday
it says - I made my post on Tuesday.

And more bullshit from our lying leaders about there being no supply issue whatsoever, but that it was merely a "supply chain" issue - I never believed it - I mean folk are still having trash and simply delightful nibbles delivered to their doors.

You can issue bullshit statements but folk on the ground/out on the streets know what the situation is from their personal experience.

Doubtless more media stories are available.

Time to stay put for a while I think - cycle around - the party's over.

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Paste of entire story - from THREE DAYS AGO - in case it ends up behind a paywall.

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...chance/ar-AARW9Kr?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ
NHS Test and Trace has told pharmacies that it cannot deliver any extra rapid Covid tests, despite entire cities running out by lunchtime on Tuesday, The Telegraph can reveal.

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© Ben Stansall/AFP via Getty Images People have been unable to get rapid lateral flow tests in many parts of the country - Ben Stansall/AFP via Getty Images
During an emergency meeting on Tuesday, officials claimed it was “not possible logistically” to increase supplies to pharmacies beyond a single carton per day.

Health leaders were even told that orders would be “paused temporarily” in some regions, despite Downing Street’s claim that millions of the Chinese-made kits are in warehouses across the country.

During the meeting, healthcare bosses pleaded with the Government to stop directing people to pharmacies for the tests after Boris Johnson insisted there were “ample supplies in the shops”. Staff were being “abused” by frustrated customers unable to test themselves for the omicron variant, the officials heard.

Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, has advised anyone planning to mix with friends and family to take a lateral flow test beforehand to avoid catching or spreading the omicron variant.

Senior Tories said the Government’s failure to quickly distribute rapid tests would lead many people to fear they cannot “socialise safely” and “inevitably cancel their plans over Christmas”.

The Government website again suspended home deliveries of rapid devices, despite new rules requiring double-jabbed contacts of Covid cases to test themselves for a week.

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© Provided by The Telegraph Home deliveries of coronavirus lateral flow tests have again been suspended - Hasan Esen/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images
A Telegraph analysis of the NHS website found that there were also no tests available at pharmacies within 30 miles of multiple postcodes in England by lunchtime on Tuesday, including entire cities such as Bath, Bristol and Wolverhampton. Some shops began selling single boxes for around £20, as customers complained the free tests were nowhere to be found.

Alastair Buxton, director of NHS Services at Pharmaceutical Negotiating Services Committee, which represents all 11,200 pharmacies in England, said officials had refused to lift a cap on daily deliveries of a single carton of 60 to 80 boxes of tests.

“We have sought to increase the number of cartons of tests that all pharmacies can order but have been told this is simply not possible, logistically,” said Mr Buxton.

“We have also asked the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) not to direct more and more people to pharmacies, in light of the challenges that pharmacies are currently facing.”

Care home bosses said the shortage of available tests had already forced visitors to stay away from their loved ones, and threatened to leave vulnerable elderly people on their own for the festive period.

Nadra Ahmed, chairman of the National Care Association, said: “Some providers are telling us that they haven’t been able to get hold of the tests through the Government site.

“Soon we will have to prioritise our remaining tests for our staff, and stop giving them to visitors. That will mean a lot of elderly and vulnerable people spending Christmas without seeing their loved ones.”

There were also problems with PCR tests with the government website saying there were "none available" in Hertfordshire, Suffolk, Berkshire, the Isle of Wight, Middlesex, Bristol and Mendip.

Ministers have claimed there is no shortage of the tests, with millions of the Chinese-made kits lying in warehouses across the country.

Amazon has been brought in to help boost deliveries alongside the Royal Mail. A Downing Street spokesman said 230,000 boxes were sent out through the website on Monday before the slots ran out. From 8pm Saturday to 8pm Sunday, the figure was around 370,000. Ministers are hoping capacity will increase over the course of the week, the spokesman added.

‘Essential’ that lateral flow tests are available when and where people need them
Mark Harper MP, former chief whip and the chairman of the Covid Recovery Group of backbenchers, said: “Given ministers’ focus on encouraging people to use lateral flow tests to ensure they are able to socialise safely, it’s essential that ministers ensure supplies of tests are available when and where people need them.

“A failure to do so might lead to people inevitably cancelling their plans over Christmas, which is not an outcome anyone wants to see.”

Mr Harper suggested that supplies were running dry because the Government caused “panic” with its “language about emergencies”. He said “calmness” was now needed.

Dominic Raab, the Deputy Prime Minister, insisted the issue with ordering lateral flow tests from the Government website was not due to a lack of the tests.

“The problem isn't supply and volume, the problem is the allocation and distribution, or the delivery, of it,” he told the BBC.

“We know that in relation to the online system there were some challenges and that's partly because of the proportion they've got each day.

“We're making sure that however people may wish to order them and procure them, we're ramping up not just the capacity ... but the ability to distribute and to deliver.”

A UKHSA spokesman said: “We are working with pharmacies to respond to this unprecedented demand for lateral flow tests.

“We have processes in place to increase orders as requested by individual pharmacies and there is no shortage of lateral flow tests.

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winjim

Smash the cistern
There's no shortage in the same way that there was no shortage of petrol, or toilet paper, or even flavoured flipping water. There may well be loads sat in a warehouse somewhere but if the end consumer can't get hold of it then it's a shortage at the point of supply, as it were.
 
We've ordered online just fine this week. I'd go on again to see if it's ok today but I don't want another box.

It's very easy to imagine that a pharmacy can run out of stock in a big city. I don't see why people would be surprised.
 
OP
OP
Blue Hills
Location
London
It's very easy to imagine that a pharmacy can run out of stock in a big city. I don't see why people would be surprised.
It's rather more than that.
see above.

see the bit in the piece that talks of deliveries being "paused" in some areas.

Well into euphemism territory there I think.
Why pause?
Pausing is a human act.
My experience is of places not knowing when they are getting any.
At none of the places I have visited have I seen queues of any sort - the only queue I saw was at a vaccination centre - a good sign I think - responsible adults going to get themselves fully vaccinated/boosted.
 
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PaulSB

Squire
@Blue Hills I fully appreciate this is causing you real concern and I understand why. I'm far from a supporter of this government but I do wonder about some of the reporting you quoted. In particular the home delivery aspect. I ordered ten minutes ago and received the standard "within three days" confirmation.

I'd like to suggest ordering for home delivery can ease the situation. I'd imagine finding additional delivery and logistics to pharmacies and other sites is hugely difficult in the week prior to Christmas. As you rightly say nibbles are being delivered but I cannot see the likes of Amazon, Sainsbury's, Tesco etc giving up their pre-booked logistics. Possibly they should but that's a different discussion.

The only packaging involved is to slap a printed address label on the box. Once delivery is made to Royal Mail DCs it becomes a very simple operation.

Everyone I know who is using or has used LFTs gets them delivered with the post.
 
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