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Adam4868

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Interesting that the talk is that the "race bubble" is most strict in Spain and was least strict in Italy with France somewhere in the middle. Italy was the only GT to be seriously impacted by Coronavirus

I hope it shows what can be achieved in professional sport with the appropriate controls. It's hard to imagine something more difficult to bubble than a GT

You have to Think ASO will have seen how they applied rules at the tour, how RCS applied some rules at the Giro (and the results for positive tests with teams walking away) and then doubled-down on being strict for la Vuelta.
 

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sundays stage was really short (100km or something) which will have helped the quick times. One thing Daniel Friebe mentions about this is that cycling seems to ignore the wind in respect to climbs, and I have to agree with him about how it’s ignored that the wind could have an impact. In my relatively slow efforts I can recognise the environmental impact of more than just the climb, so it’s bizarre this is discounted for the pros who climb real mountains over long periods...
 

nickyboy

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sundays stage was really short (100km or something) which will have helped the quick times. One thing Daniel Friebe mentions about this is that cycling seems to ignore the wind in respect to climbs, and I have to agree with him about how it’s ignored that the wind could have an impact. In my relatively slow efforts I can recognise the environmental impact of more than just the climb, so it’s bizarre this is discounted for the pros who climb real mountains over long periods...
Yeah, would be interesting to know wind speed and direction.

As a metric, I regularly climb the Snake Pass, it's as close as you can get to an Alpine climb around here. I'm similar pace to the pros on Angrilu as that's much steeper. With a tailwind I can be down at 21 minutes. With same strength headwind I can be 28 minutes.
 

SWSteve

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Yeah, would be interesting to know wind speed and direction.

As a metric, I regularly climb the Snake Pass, it's as close as you can get to an Alpine climb around here. I'm similar pace to the pros on Angrilu as that's much steeper. With a tailwind I can be down at 21 minutes. With same strength headwind I can be 28 minutes.

I find the same with Cheddar Gorge. The wind makes a huge difference depending on how it may, or may not, hit the rock face
 
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Adam4868

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sundays stage was really short (100km or something) which will have helped the quick times. One thing Daniel Friebe mentions about this is that cycling seems to ignore the wind in respect to climbs, and I have to agree with him about how it’s ignored that the wind could have an impact. In my relatively slow efforts I can recognise the environmental impact of more than just the climb, so it’s bizarre this is discounted for the pros who climb real mountains over long periods...
Take your point regarding the wind,but shorter stages make for far faster times.
Gap between 1st and 7th of the GC battle on Angliru in #LaVuelta20 (removing breakaway riders)

1999: 2m45s (175 Km)
2000: 2m48s (168 Km)
2002: 2m16s (176 Km)
2008: 2m18s (209,5 Km)
2011: 1m35s (144 Km)
2013: 1m54s (142 Km)
2017: 51s (117 Km)
2020: 26s (109 Km)
 

Eziemnaik

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Which does not tell a whole story again as you could have a 1000m of climbing in 200km and and 3000m in 100km
We can all agree, I think, comparing times between different seasons is difficult.
Unless it is to pinpoint Magic Valverde Maturing Like A Pinot Noir.
 
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