La Vuelta SPOILERS.

[Adam4868]

I thought someone from Jumbo said in an early interview, maybe prerace, that they have no train here because the Vuelta is more chaotic and that tactic doesn't work here like at the Tour.

Roglic struggled with a jacket but he used his entire team to get back on.There were 3 or 4 Jumbo riders at the front of the peloton with 30k ish to go.He got back on with about 20k to go...no Kuss though.He had to put a lot of energy into that chase.Then was dropped with what 3k to go.Tough day at the office.

 

[roadrash]

On a side note, riders have been struggling with jackets all week, why are we investing money is such things as tubeless for 23mm tyres and not in easy to put on clothing?

because it does not matter how much money you invest in a rain jacket , if its windy and your hands are cold and wet you will struggle no matter the monetary value of jacket.

 

[matticus]

I wonder whether some of the teams should be looking at the way that eg. military special forces drill their troops into being able to do the basics faultlessly whilst blindfolded, in the cold, exhausted etc. How many of the teams practice putting rain jackets on and off whilst suffering from extreme cold and exhaustion ? It’s the sort of thing Sir Dave would think of but not sure about the others.

You are joking, I hope!

 

[Adam4868]

because it does not matter how much money you invest in a rain jacket , if its windy and your hands are cold and wet you will struggle no matter the monetary value of jacket.

More about positioning and where you collected your jackets.Got caught out yesterday and paid for it.
Saying that Carapaz looks on form.In my heart id like Hugh Carthy,Dan Martin to be up there...but I think Carapaz will win this Vuelta.Hes looked good since the last week of the Tour.

 

[mjr]

More about positioning and where you collected your jackets.Got caught out yesterday and paid for it.
Saying that Carapaz looks on form.In my heart id like Hugh Carthy,Dan Martin to be up there...but I think Carapaz will win this Vuelta.Hes looked good since the last week of the Tour.

He's taken the lead too early. It appears that the way to win a 2020 GT is to roll the leader on the final competitive stage.

 

[Adam4868]

He's taken the lead too early. It appears that the way to win a 2020 GT is to roll the leader on the final competitive stage.

Or shock horror be the strongest rider ?

 

[mjr]

Or shock horror be the strongest rider ?

Only if you don't test positive for covid.

 

[matticus]

My analysis shows that to win this year you need to be:
- 25 or younger; and
- dating a female pro rider.

Does this help?

 

[roadrash]

Saying that Carapaz looks on form.In my heart id like Hugh Carthy,Dan Martin to be up there...but I think Carapaz will win this Vuelta.Hes looked good since the last week of the Tour.
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I cant dissagree with this, even though i would like to

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

You are joking, I hope!

Not at all ! If it works for the Marines or the Para’s then that’s what’s needed here.

 

[ColinJ]

A mate of mine is a very good bike handler but I saw him nearly crash riding no hands down a Spanish mountain trying to put his windtop on... One of the sleeves dangled down and almost got dragged into a wheel!

It nearly happened to at least one of the riders the other day. (I can't remember if it was the Vuelta or the Giro.)

Taking into account the risk of a serious crash, and time lost messing about, I think it would be worth the 5-10 seconds it would take to stop and put the jacket on at the summit, then chase back on.

I'm sure that damaging windchill effect of giving up on donning a jacket would cost far more time than stopping briefly.

 

[Bonus]

I managed to score a load of goodies at the feed-point of yesterdays Vuelta stage - I'll write more about that later - but for now I just wanted to say that when I got home and looked inside one of the discarded feed bags (musettes) there was, amongst other things, half the pages from a newspaper.

At the time I couldn't work out why but then it dawned on me that with the cold wet weather, it may well have been for "chest insulation".

 

[Adam4868]

I managed to score a load of goodies at the feed-point of yesterdays Vuelta stage - I'll write more about that later - but for now I just wanted to say that when I got home and looked inside one of the discarded feed bags (musettes) there was, amongst other things, half the pages from a newspaper.

At the time I couldn't work out why but then it dawned on me that with the cold wet weather, it may well have been for "chest insulation".

Either that or maybe a bit of reading when bored in the "Ineos train" whatever that is.😁

 

[Beebo]

working with the conditions has to be something to plan for when racing this late into the year
I didn’t see yesterday’s incident but the one in the Giro was bonkers. Getting both arms in then doing up the zip was impossible when wearing full finger gloves.

maybe remove your gloves to put the jacket on. It’s all about the marginal gains.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

working with the conditions has to be something to plan for when racing this late into the year
I didn’t see yesterday’s incident but the one in the Giro was bonkers. Getting both arms in then doing up the zip was impossible when wearing full finger gloves.

maybe remove your gloves to put the jacket on. It’s all about the marginal gains.

or giving the riders a jacket that’s a size too big so it’s easier to get on. I expect that Ineos have looked into this sort of thing.