Kick that car.....

[Will1985]

....and the driver pay for buckled wheel and injuries to the rider?

Yes.

 

[ComedyPilot]

They were as bad as each other. My reading of it is that the cyclist admitted to kicking the car after the initial contact. Surely he should have been made to pay for that repair.

....and the driver pay for buckled wheel and injuries to the rider?

I think Will1985 answered that question before you posted it.

They were as bad as one another, and as is more common nowadays, no-one wants to lose face by backing down. And we all know the consequences of that, don't we?

 

[Shrimp_Stu]

They were as bad as one another, and as is more common nowadays, no-one wants to lose face by backing down. And we all know the consequences of that, don't we?

+1

 

[semislickstick]

...I think the judge answered it.
Neither of them got compensated for the 'collision'

 

[byegad]

I'd say there were three 'wrongs' in this. The initial contact (brush is weaseling and contact is what happened). Then the damage to the car and finally attempted murder.

I'd say the driver is lucky not to be looking at a manslaughter or murder charge and subsequent sentence. I'd say he got away with the 'brushing' incident. The rider is lucky not to be paying for the damage to the car.

 

[theclaud]

Do you actually beleive that this was the right thing to do??????

Yes. Why not? It didn't hurt him, and it might make him think twice. I often hit cars that pass too close - not hard enough to do any damage, but the drivers always look gratifyingly terrified. And I'm not very scary. The problem is the ones that go past you too fast for you to react in time to get a retaliatory wallop in.

 

[Bad Company]

I'd say there were three 'wrongs' in this. The initial contact (brush is weaseling and contact is what happened). Then the damage to the car and finally attempted murder.

I'd say the driver is lucky not to be looking at a manslaughter or murder charge and subsequent sentence. I'd say he got away with the 'brushing' incident. The rider is lucky not to be paying for the damage to the car.

Yep agreed - spot on.

 

[bonk man]

I am all for attacking cars that are used carelessly but more particularly those driven dangerously.

I was pillion on a motorbike many years ago and we were badly cut up and nearly wiped out by a terrible bit of driving. The rider and I were extremely cross and we decided to catch the culprit, which we did in the next town. I had a steam iron down my jacket [ my mates wife's, I think I had just been repairing it and it was going back..... whatever ] consequently the car got many dents in its roof...... I would do it again.

I have remonstrated with drivers who have held their hands up and said sorry but there are so many who don't give a damn if they run you off the road and to be honest they need a wake up call.

My mate dragged the [ chav ] driver out through the window of a car after he was deliberately knocked off his bike in Worcester town centre. The driver got a total pasting, serves him right.

A club mate was run over deliberately and it ended in court action, the guy was done for it thanks to one of his mates grassing him up....

I would not boot in a grannies motor just because she is blind and shouldn't be behind the wheel but I might take the keys if the incident were bad enough and I have seen this done, rider rammed from behind by old duffer, got up and realising the driver was not fit to drive whips out the keys and calls the cops.

 

[Rhys_Po]

I'd say the driver is lucky not to be looking at a manslaughter or murder charge and subsequent sentence.

I think he would have been pretty unlucky myself, given that the cyclist is still alive.

 

[ufkacbln]

"Kicked the car"?

SHurely....

I was passed extremely closely by the vehicle, and was using both my hands on the brakes.. It was so close that I had to fend myself off using my foot to avoid being hot by the vehicle!

 

[Bad Company]

I am all for attacking cars that are used carelessly but more particularly those driven dangerously.

You toucha my car I breaka your face.

 

[magnatom]

I can understand hitting a car as a reaction. For example I have on two occasions hit a car/van as they passed way to close. On both occasions it was a reaction to something invading my space, and an attempt to 'wake' the driver up.

However, there is no excuse for approaching the car, arguing with the driver and then kicking his car. Criminal damage IMO.

Of course the greater evil in this instance is of course the car driver driving at the cyclist. Absolutely no excuse for using the car as a weapon, or even just to 'prevent escape' as the driver claimed.

 

[Lizban]

I'm shocked that (some) people seem to think attacking a car (or driver for that matter) is an acceptable reaction to bad driving.

You live and learn I suppose

 

[bonk man]

As a vulnerable road user getting hit by or almost squashed by a car will raise the adrenalin levels to fight or flight levels, therefore it is quite understandable people attack cars and sometimes drivers.

Riding in traffic is stressful anyway and add a near miss it can boil over. Being reasonable is easy when you are sitting in front of the computer but in the real world when a cretin has bashed into you with a 2 ton car it is different.

Whether or not the driver deliberately attacked you is neither here nor there if you have the red mist, however I have been in angry situations that have calmed down quickly when you actually speak to the driver, they often know they are in the wrong and I think lots of car bashing goes on when they flick the finger at you or don't even want to acknowledge you when you catch up and say "oi mate........etc.. "

Any driver touching a cyclist with a car should go on a driving course and have it drilled into them that cyclists are vulnerable ... getting tapped from behind and then going into a tree or under a lorry is not good.

I recommend reading ' An Open Letter to the Motorist ' by W Fitzwater Wray [ the book title is The Kuklos Papers ] to remind ourselves what a monster the car is and how things have got worse since the 1920's, it has changed my view of driving, I am even more against private car ownership than I was before reading this book.

 

[purplepolly]

I'm shocked that (some) people seem to think attacking a car (or driver for that matter) is an acceptable reaction to bad driving.

You live and learn I suppose

I've had a car drive into the edge of my pannier at traffic lights when the driver started off before the green light. My bike moved forward by about 2 feet, having a fast moving car do that must have been very scary... just like the time I got run off the road while going past a junction by a driver desperate to turn left and get to mcdonalds.

Some people aren't capable of sitting around making well thought out rational courses of action when these kinds of incidents happen and are more driven by fear and andrenalin.