Justice for cyclists

[glenn forger]

A CYCLIST who suffered severe injuries when a car ran over both her legs, has said the justice system is too lenient on offenders.
Sarah-Charlotte Peace’s comments came as the driver of the car received a £110 fine and nine points on their licence at Shrewsbury Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday.

Susan Heater from Ipswich pleaded guilty to driving without due care and attention following the incident at the Salop Road and Black Gate Street roundabout on August 22, 2012

http://www.bordercountiesadvertizer...clist-says-justice-system-is-too-lenient.aspx

Today on the way home a huge black Nissan Navara passed scarily close for no apparent reason, then pulled into a pub car park. The driver, had he hit me and run me over, would presumably have been fined a tenth of the value of my bike, going by Ms Peace's experience. Something's very wrong.

 

[atbman]

All too common:

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Motorist spared jail over death of veteran cyclist

by Mike Healey » 23 Jun 2013 12:00
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/2 ... rd-grayson.

"Accident investigators said Barraclough would have seen Grayson for at least nine seconds. But the defendant admitted he had been looking at a low-loader lorry on the opposite carriageway just before the crash."

So, either he was looking at a vehicle going in the opposite direction for 9 seconds, which should fall far below the standard that a competent driver should display, or he glanced at the lorry and completely forgot about the cyclists who had been in his sightline for long enough to be able to see what colour jersey he was wearing, let alone actually see him, or he didn't notice anyone in front of him at all for nine seconds.

then again, "...signs were in place warning motorists of the event, which Barraclough told police he had seen.", so in any of the 3 possibilites above he was massively culpable and would have overtaken other cyclists on the road, (assuming, that is, that he hadn't just joined the road), so should have been even more aware of the likelihood of seeing other riders on the road.

The usual appalling failure of imagination, let alone rational analysis of a driver's responsibility for the killing

 

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Motorist spared jail over death of veteran cyclist

by Mike Healey » 23 Jun 2013 12:00
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/2 ... rd-grayson.

"Accident investigators said Barraclough would have seen Grayson for at least nine seconds. But the defendant admitted he had been looking at a low-loader lorry on the opposite carriageway just before the crash."

So, either he was looking at a vehicle going in the opposite direction for 9 seconds, which should fall far below the standard that a competent driver should display, or he glanced at the lorry and completely forgot about the cyclists who had been in his sightline for long enough to be able to see what colour jersey he was wearing, let alone actually see him, or he didn't notice anyone in front of him at all for nine seconds.

then again, "...signs were in place warning motorists of the event, which Barraclough told police he had seen.", so in any of the 3 possibilites above he was massively culpable and would have overtaken other cyclists on the road, (assuming, that is, that he hadn't just joined the road), so should have been even more aware of the likelihood of seeing other riders on the road.

The usual appalling failure of imagination, let alone rational analysis of a driver's responsibility for the killing

 

[buggi]

I'm so glad you've put this thread on. a woman got knocked off her bike on a roundabout near my work today. many people from my office witnessed either the accident or the aftermath, and it was definitely driver error, he went straight into the back of her while she was already on the roundabout. full hi viz gear and correct road positioning according to witnesses. We are having a safety meeting about it on Friday. This is going to be my closing video and i'm also going to ask for it to be included in the company team talk next month.

 

[sheddy]

Petition here - http://www.roadjustice.org.uk/police-petition

 

[Kookas]

I meant 'it is wrong' as in wrong to make it equal after the years women enjoyed the benefits. I'm not saying it's mis information, I've been using search engines, mostly google for the past 17 years, so I know how to find information out thanks.

Why's it wrong? Seems like the right way to go to me.

 

[jefmcg]

I have a gauge I use for sexism, just swap "black" for the disadvantaged gender in the story.

Eg, does anyone think that charging black drivers more for insurance because more black people were in car accidents would be ok?

A white driver would have known not to carry on after the first set of wheels went over her.

See?
(and try re-reading attacks on same-sex marriage, replace "same-sex" with "mixed race" and see if they still sound rational/acceptable)

 

[downfader]

I have a gauge I use for sexism, just swap "black" for the disadvantaged gender in the story.

Eg, does anyone think that charging black drivers more for insurance because more black people were in car accidents would be ok?



See?
(and try re-reading attacks on same-sex marriage, replace "same-sex" with "mixed race" and see if they still sound rational/acceptable)

An interesting point to note is how insurance companies still discriminate on other grounds, eg charging you more if you live in or near a "high crime area" (their criteria). So race can be affected in roundabout ways...