Just got a 'new' second hand Dawes Horizon. Want some opinions

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Savio

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Hey guys

I wanted a bike for a while that I could go long distances on, basically one to three day trips cycling say from Bristol to London, or back, or travelling around Ireland this year. I bought a second hand Dawes Clubman for £400 (slightly over priced maybe but it was like new condition, the 2013 model) - I didn't know much about bikes and realize this is an 'audax' bike. It has a carbon fork and allegedly not much room to work with for mud guards or thicker tires. I'm not sure if either are absolutely necessary for my purposes (Though mud guards are becoming ever and ever more needed with the rain in Ireland.. ha.)

So here's where I bought this Horizon. I kinda rushed because I was spending £3+ a day on buses anyway and another month of that would have cost me a fortune not to mention the buses here in Belfast are shite, often deciding to disappear off the radar entirely or just not stop at the bus stop (maybe it's just my bad luck?)

So now I have a bike...(my clubman is back in England and I didn't want the hassle of shipping it over or it getting stolen) but I'm not sure what to do about the gearing. It has this old system which I don't even know the name of and feels a little dangerous in commuting environments, or at high speeds, faffing about without looking where I'm going properly etc.

So the main situation is:

I can leave Ireland and flog the bike back to them, it seems popular, one of the bike mechanics wanted it himself. A friend of mine is also interested. I paid £120 and he fitted new chainsets, chain, saddle etc which he said would have cost in a standard bike shop £100 + alone.

Or ... I can keep the bike, spruce up the surface rust on the frame, and try to upgrade the shifters...this could all cost in excess of £70-80++ and what I wonder is...

Did I get a good deal on this ? Should I start using it as my 'main tourer' given the added clearance for mudguards and thicker tires? Or is my Clubman a better and equally suitable bike? I certainly prefer the way it rides and the STI shifters. Also great at trainstations, the carbon fork makes it very light. My thoughts are to stick with my clubman. I heard it also has a better frame though I've no idea.

Any thoughts? I'll add pics later , it's to dark at the moment.

The mechanic said I'd need STI 3x7 shifters which allegedly are hard to find. Starting to notice possible snags :P
 

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Savio

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As you can tell I'm very much a novice / noob. =)
 
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Savio

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Yeh, I don't know, I just wanted a bike, and I estimated it was at least 6+ years old, but I don't know exactly. I will try find out tomorrow I might see the guy again. I bought it because I was reassured my friend would take it off me for at least £90, so even if I use the bike for a month it only cost me £40, which is cheaper than all that public transport!

There was also a small part of me that wanted to show it TLC, given it had rust on the frame I thought it may get over looked. I'm glad I've at least played a role in getting it back on the road, if nothing else :P
 

young Ed

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the answer is obvious! you simply keep both :biggrin:
i respect that you probably aren't made of money, not many of us are
but just putting together a simple saving plan like say a tenner a week or 20 quid a week, whatever you can afford really and you could fit out the clubman with sti shifters such as shimano tiagra or 105 of course checking they are compatible first or if the only compatible ones are lower ones such as shimano 2300 or tiagra etc then go for that

just feel free to ask on here about any technical questions or non-technical :tongue:
Cheers Ed
P.S: i am serious about keep them both as the clubman is great for riding at home and sort of 70 odd miles max or whatever you can do in one day but the horizon may also be comfier for that sort of distance
 
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Savio

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That was my thought - keeping it. The thing is my friend is very attached to getting it off me when I leave, he's already in love with it and hasn't ridden it. lol.

Thing is he strikes me as the type that will lose it, not lock it up and get it nicked... I'd sleep sounder at night knowing he bought a £50 mountain bike...I know within 6 months it'd be gone... and also left outside. He's not the caring type!

Pics... ok. let me try figure out how to use his SLR...
 

young Ed

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That was my thought - keeping it. The thing is my friend is very attached to getting it off me when I leave, he's already in love with it and hasn't ridden it. lol.

Thing is he strikes me as the type that will lose it, not lock it up and get it nicked... I'd sleep sounder at night knowing he bought a £50 mountain bike...I know within 6 months it'd be gone... and also left outside. He's not the caring type!

Pics... ok. let me try figure out how to use his SLR...
keep it
don't let him have it if you even like it the slightest bit! :biggrin:
Cheers Ed
 

Davidc

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Mine's a 2008 model, and the 2007 model was similar but with an aluminium frame, and both had 3x8 gearing with STI shifters.

From your description the gears you have are non indexed, which for anyone not used to that can be a bit difficult.

The (steel) frames on the Horizons have always been good mid-range ones and the bikes hold a good value. I bought mine when it was a year old, and have recently been asked if I was thinking of selling it - complete with an offer 50% higher than I paid for it. On that basis you should be able to recoup much or all of your money.

My 2008 Horizon is one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned and very stable, but it's a bit heavy and certainly isn't a fast bike. (Neither is its rider any more).

The Clubman is a faster and lighter bike and I have seen them fitted with mudguards. I would have thought you could fit a rack and carry enough kit for short tours on the Clubman. Doesn't sound as if you're going to do 2 weeks camping using front and rear racks and full panniers but if you are the Horizon would be a better choice!
 
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Savio

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pics up... actually the gears are indexed and it's not too hard, just far from ideal, for me at least, being an inexperienced cyclist at best.

What appeals to me about keeping it, is it could be the bike I take on riskier tours where theft is more likely and I don't want to take a 4KG lock with me on my travels.

That makes sense right? I do have a hybrid 'real' bike, some aluminium halfords jobbie, second hand that I got for £85 - It rides ok but I bet the horizon is a cut above it in terms of material and build quality? then again, I have no idea.
 

SS Retro

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The horizon will be Reynolds steel look for a little sticker on the frame of that age I would have thought 531 but it might be 501?
 
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