Is cycling marketed for women in the wrong way?

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rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
Nice piece TT. I don't think anyone on here would disagree with you that cycling should be gender equal in marketing. Reinforcing it as a healthy, lifestyle choice for anyone is the way to proceed.
I do recall reading somewhere that cycling puts a proportion of women off as wearing a helmet buggers up their hair for work. Dunno if that's true or not and it only applies to those who feel a helmet is a prerequisite.
 

zizou

Veteran
Good article. It is maybe less of an issue at the premium / expensive part of the market (indeed there are brands that are exclusive to women) but certainly at the more affordable range not much thought seems to go in. Although in saying that I dont think the design of mens cycle wear is particularly interesting at this end of the market either, alot of it dull and uninspiring and i'd welcome more pink and glittery designs. On the bike i dont associate pink with women it is more a colour that is part of cycling heritage.

btw i think you are being a bit unfair on Assos - their adverts are always ridiculous but the link given in the article is advertising different things - a shell, a jacket, a baselayer etc. When you compare like for like the adverts for male shorts and tights have the models topless too.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
Hi TT, read your article :thumbsup:
In my (limited, just 2 years regular cycling, mostly utilitarian) experience, the question is a bit vague.
Your article mixes up two kinds of cycling, the cycling for sport, assumed to be a bit competitive, needs specific clothing, and the utilitarian cycling - riding to work, shops, meeting friends in town.
Can't comment on the sport's attire, you are probably right there in stating that some is not very flattering, could put girls off from joining clubs/fast rides because they could think twice about donning Lycra shorts, go to the gym in baggies instead.
I say could, obviously there are solutions for the determined: often I wear a flouncy shortish skirt on top of my padded shorts if the ride requires a lycraed bottom :smile:
Done my first 100 miles recently hiding the wobbly bits with a pair of summer linen half leg shorts on top of the cycling ones, normal tee on top, lots of other women at the event were similar attired.

Now, if the cycling to be marketed at women is the "everyday" cycling, surely the problem lies not in the advertising, but in the lack of gear to advertise!
There is not really a good range of ladies clothing suitable to wear on the bike while going about on ones daily business. Some brands (designed by pro women cyclist) are emerging, bit pricey for what I've seen, will post a few links if I find them.
I don't really want to wear my yellow hi-viz jacket when meeting friends to the theater, have to until I find a similar warm waterproof jacket in normal colours.
So, yes, this kind of issues can well put a girl off from taking up cycling for transport: cycling overshoes to Tesco anybody? :wacko: :laugh:

I'm a bit dubious about Rosie Dowies statement:
"As a fan of black kit and A roads I struggle to identify with marketing campaigns that think I'll buy more stuff if it's got flowers on it and is designed for use on a segregated cycle lane."
Never knew there is gear designed to be worn on segregate lanes only. I guess she means visibility, of course you can wear black, make your bike very visible nevertheless.

The bit about being scared of entering cycle shops is surely a generalization? Are the same women timid on entering B&Q? Guess this is a matter of assertive personalities, not cycling specific.

In conclusion, I think what puts women off from (utility) cycling is fear of traffic first, fear of arriving at the destination looking rugged second.
The first can be aided by training, practice and reading Cycle Chat ^_^ the latter ... I'm still working on this, any help appreciated!
 
The bicycle industry is manned almost exclusively by men, not just men but men as bike geeks, so it's not just women who feel intimidated by bike shops - it's the whole general population. I'm as guilty as anyone in the bike industry of conspiring to present an image of cycling as a macho sporty activity which requires specialist equipment. I can see now that this has stood in the way of cycling being accepted as an ordinary, everyday activity. Men do find it less of a barrier though.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
one of the women at work has just bought a Trek Lexa - http://www.evanscycles.com/products/trek/lexa-slx-compact-2013-womens-road-bike-ec041057
It's a lovely bike, costing over £1,000, but why does it need to have gold bar tape and flowers painted all over it? Any woman prepared to spend £1,000 on a bike isnt going to want flowers on it!
Reading the two reviews on Evans both of them say the flowers could have been a deal breaker, if the performance wasnt so good..
 

Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
No to the flowers but am finding myself strangely attracted to the gold bar tape! Bit of bling!
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
I can assure you that there is absolutely no shortage of stylish women's cycling clothing available. I know for a fact that it is possible to spend thousands on women's cycling clothing. Thousands and more thousands. Trust me on this. And now, if you'll excuse me, I see the postman struggling up the path, burdened by packages. The poor man looks quite done in.

And yes, wearing a helmet does make a mess of your hair.
 

ComedyPilot

Secret Lemonade Drinker
I think the whole sport-orientated cycling vision the UK has is wrong. Although a good number of people will enter cycling and pursue the sport side, by far and away the largest untapped resource of new cyclists is the utility cyclist. Sadly, due to some wierd British mentality that I touched on here:

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/commuting-in-switzerland.139401/#post-2645239

I can't see the focus being put right for a time yet, for women or men being courted to the activity.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Yes and No.
I know serious cycling who still like the flowery/pink stuff and those that don't ... and some are women :-)
I think there's a fair amount of choice out there. Not everyone wants unisex either.
 
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