Ipod questions

[col]

Im getting the impression that ipods and itunes are good when your familiar with them.Unfortunately im not and was hoping i could just drag and drop from my pc into an ipod,like i do with my cheap one now,as i wasnt really keen on downloading the itunes site,just a preference and in no way a put down.

 

[goo_mason]

Im getting the impression that ipods and itunes are good when your familiar with them.Unfortunately im not and was hoping i could just drag and drop from my pc into an ipod,like i do with my cheap one now,as i wasnt really keen on downloading the itunes site,just a preference and in no way a put down.

4 years ago I bought a 20Gb iRiver ihp-120, which is still going strong and the battery will still do me for days without a recharge. It's from the pre-colour screen days, but it's a solid workhorse with great features and you can drag and drop from your PC. It also has multi-format file-type support, so it'll play those weird'n'wonderful file formats that an iPod won't.

My only wish is that iRiver would shift away from those piddly 2 & 4Mb players it now puts out and go back to large-storage devices. If and when it eventually dies, I do NOT want to go down the iTunes / iPod route. I detest iTunes with a vengeance (I have it installed as I need to make sure my podcast shows up in it when I put it live each week), much as I dislike the whole style-over-substance, over-priced and over-hyped Apple range.

Yes, I understand that some people love iPods and iTunes, but for me they're just too much of a pain and far too restrictive for the way I work with my music.

 

[Carwash]

... I detest iTunes with a vengeance ...

Why? Did it steal your ice-cream or something?

I hope you get revenge for that. They say it's a dish best served cold...

 

[goo_mason]

Why? Did it steal your ice-cream or something?

I hope you get revenge for that. They say it's a dish best served cold...

 

[Kovu]

...much as I dislike the whole style-over-substance, over-priced and over-hyped Apple range.

Which is why I won't even buy an i-pod or anything of the apple range.

 

[Jaded]

Which is why I won't even buy an i-pod or anything of the apple range.

Yeah!

Get a Zune.

The Brown one looks nice.

 

[bonj2]

Oh bonj! Stop moaning, for goodness' sake, and get that chip off your shoulder!



They don't work the way I want them to either - so I just use something else. Perhaps you should consider this option. Whinging about how you were outsmarted by a piece of software solves nothing.

i wasn't outsmarted, i tested it first so i made sure i only wasted 79 pence.
I just want to warn other people that it's shite so they don't have to suffer the same experience. At least i'm savvy enough to not lash out hundreds of pounds on an ipod, other people might not be.

 

[Jaded]

i wasn't outsmarted, i tested it first so i made sure i only wasted 79 pence.
I just want to warn other people that it's shite so they don't have to suffer the same experience. At least i'm savvy enough to not lash out hundreds of pounds on an ipod, other people might not be.

Except you didn't actually test it out did you. You cannot have done, given all the inaccuracies in your 'story'.

 

[goo_mason]

My brother's got an iPod. The sound quality is cack compared to my iRiver

 

[Carwash]

My brother's got an iPod. The sound quality is cack compared to my iRiver

The fact that people listen to lossily compressed music on any device suggests that sound quality is not their primary concern. Other factors are deemed more desirable.

 

[Carwash]

i wasn't outsmarted, i tested it first so i made sure i only wasted 79 pence.

That must have been some thorough testing, given the number of times people have had to correct you when you've falsely complained, 'iTunes is rubbish, it doesn't do X!' On this thread alone!

I just want to warn other people that it's shite so they don't have to suffer the same experience.

There's an important distinction to be made between 'the iPod/iTunes is shite' and 'the iPod/iTunes does not do what bonj wants'.

 

[Globalti]

I'm not saying ipods don't all work seamlessly, I'm just saying that they don't work the way I want them to. For some people (like your family obviously) they're probably the ideal solution, but i'm just saying that, for me, they don't give me enough control.
For instance:
a) say you want to burn off an mp3 cd to listen to in your car. You can't - because you havent' actually GOT any mp3s. itunes presumably has a nice convenient 'burn' button on its user interface, but it only burns audio cds, i.e. one album per cd, as opposed to 10 albums per cd on an mp3 cd.
Have you ever changed your computer and transferred all your ipod tracks from old to new and come through the experience still regarding ipods and itunes as 'fuss-free'?
c) can you and your family all swap and share tracks with each other?

Answers:

A) Not sure what you mean here but yes, I can create a playlist then burn this onto a CD to listen to in the car or give to friends. Usually around 15 - 17 tracks though.

I can also slide my iPod into a port in the glovebox and the car radio picks it up as an additional CD player, giving me the ability to swop between tracks and playlists but not to see the track details.

B)Yes, last year, it was slow but easy enough once I'd worked out that I needed a newer version of iTunes on both computers. You use the iPod as temporary storage for the actual mp3 files.

C) Yes, we do frequently share tracks on the hard drive.

 

[goo_mason]

The fact that people listen to lossily compressed music on any device suggests that sound quality is not their primary concern. Other factors are deemed more desirable.

Or the fact that they use the standard white iPod earphones, which are appallingly bad for sound quality. And they listen to tracks at 128Mbps or less compression in mp3.

I like to HEAR the music. I use as lossless a compression as I can get away with storage-wise, and I invested in some Shure e2c canal-phones 4 years ago.

 

[Globalti]

They're a joke; they don't even go in your ear. I use some Sony internal plug jobs, which also cut out exterior noise rather well.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

I won't be listening to mine with any headphones. I only bought it to play through the truck's radio while I'm at work, and maybe through the PA system before our gigs. (If the rest of the band will let me get away with it, that is.)